On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:42:18 +0200, Florian Rustedt <flo### [at] rustedtde>
wrote:
> The video is made in 320x200, after that i transformed it to mpeg with mencode
> to a size <2 MB for this list...

If it is mpeg then why it is avi ?
And please note purposes of existing povray.binaries.images and
povray.binaries.animations. They are explained in
http://news.povray.org/povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions/

ABX

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ABX wrote:

> If it is mpeg then why it is avi ?

AFAIK, because .avi and .mpg are just containers, it is the same if you choose
one or the other. By now, you can divX or MJpeg in every format, it is like a
XML file where you can describe what anyone can find in it..

> And please note purposes of existing povray.binaries.images and
> povray.binaries.animations. They are explained in
> http://news.povray.org/povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions/

Sorry, but i don't understand why you are telling me that? Did i something wrong
by posting my first attempt?

Greets, FR

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> Sorry, but i don't understand why you are telling me that? Did i something
> wrong by posting my first attempt?

...is it because i did add an animation AND a pic?

That's because i did not want to post twice, so i posted under the pics section
because of the pics better quality...

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:51:37 +0200, Florian Rustedt <flo### [at] rustedtde>
wrote:
> > If it is mpeg then why it is avi ?
>
> AFAIK, because .avi and .mpg are just containers, it is the same if you choose
> one or the other.

You said you made mpeg and you posted avi. And you say both are containers.
Does it mean you can made avi within mpeg within avi within mpeg within
avi...?

> By now, you can divX or MJpeg in every format, it is like a
> XML file where you can describe what anyone can find in it..

That's not true. MPEG1 is well described file format, not container. MPEG2
somehow kind of container (more possible codings iirc), thought not as
flexible as AVI. AFAIK avi is indeed container and you can even put Word
document inside probably. http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/starting-points.html#faqs

> > And please note purposes of existing povray.binaries.images and
> > povray.binaries.animations. They are explained in
> > http://news.povray.org/povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions/
>
> Sorry, but i don't understand why you are telling me that? Did i something wrong
> by posting my first attempt?

Yes. For some persons downloading over 1MB of animation in group where images
measured in kilobates are expected is not funny. Mentioned url will lead you
to descriptions of groups on this news server.

ABX

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ABX wrote:

> Does it mean you can made avi within mpeg within avi within mpeg within
> avi...?
> That's not true. MPEG1 is well described file format, not container. MPEG2
> somehow kind of container (more possible codings iirc), thought not as
> flexible as AVI. AFAIK avi is indeed container and you can even put Word
> document inside probably. http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/starting-points.html#faqs

Well, so it is anyway possible to put mpg in avi. The "mencoder" makes no
difference between saving in .mpg or .avi.

Perhaps because it is mentioned to be used with the actual codecs which are all
possible to put them in each?!

> Yes. For some persons downloading over 1MB of animation in group where images
> measured in kilobates are expected is not funny. Mentioned url will lead you
> to descriptions of groups on this news server.

hum... Thought this is the advantage of a binary-list?! Ok, was the last time i
used it like that, but after this i wonder why 2MB are allowed if the community
interest goes to several kB?!

But..... could you PLEASE give me a feedback to my post-content other than that
mentioned thing?

After all, that was the reason for this ;-)

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:43:10 +0200, Florian Rustedt <flo### [at] rustedtde>
wrote:
> Well, so it is anyway possible to put mpg in avi. The "mencoder" makes no
> difference between saving in .mpg or .avi.

From what I see at http://mp.dev.hu/DOCS/encoding.html it makes difference
since there is clear distinction in subjects between section 7.1 and 7.2. How
file is named (with .avi or with .mpeg extension) with '-o' option is user
problem but for sure you can't use DIVX in MPEG1 file format.

> > Yes. For some persons downloading over 1MB of animation in group where images
> > measured in kilobates are expected is not funny. Mentioned url will lead you
> > to descriptions of groups on this news server.
>
> hum... Thought this is the advantage of a binary-list?!

There is also another reason for clear distinction. Imagine other user after
two months want to refer in his post to your animation. He will spend a lot of
time searching in povray.binaries.animations because it is group supposed to
contain animations. But he will fail.

> Ok, was the last time i
> used it like that, but after this i wonder why 2MB are allowed if the community
> interest goes to several kB?!

Some Windows users rapidly posts BMPs because this is 'native' file format.
BMP can be large.

> But..... could you PLEASE give me a feedback to my post-content other than that
> mentioned thing?

Sure, nice _pic_. ;-)

Best regards, ABX

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"Florian Rustedt" <flo### [at] rustedtde> wrote

povray.binaries.animations would be the proper group for posting clips.

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