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From: Hj  Malthaner
Subject: The insane project - Universe class carrier ship
Date: 15 Jan 2021 04:43:07
Message: <60011d5b@news.povray.org>
Feel free to place bets. In my favorite sci-fi series there was a ship 
called "SOL" for the name of our sun and it's sole purpose to return to 
our galaxy.

It's been labeled a "Universe class battle carrier", cause "Ultra 
Battleship" had been already been taken by the former flagship units.

I want to picture this as an animation. The SOL was a carrier ship made 
of three components. I want to show the ship arriving, and then 
splitting into its three parts. The command and control unit moving to 
the back of the scene, while the two ultra battleship lookalike 
components move forward.

All three components then launch the smaller ships. Cruisers, corvettes 
and fighters. Cruisers themselves carrying fighters again and also 
launch them.

Cuts, camera focusing on the split of the combined ship, the initial 
launch of cruisers and fighters, the forward move of the two ultra 
battle ship parts, then the secondary launch of fighters from the cruisers.

And finally a sweeping look over the combined fleet, the command and 
control module in the back, the two ultra battleships a bit a head and a 
total of 6000 cruisers and fighters lined up ahead of them.

Yes the source was generous with the numbers (google SOL and Perry 
Rhodan for details, little results in English though).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/fJkTS5jjpkJYfpPx5780IthviNf2t29gEN9BRvwMYJN7Q9XrDRnOFZcKtd6PtbzzbisZf6mrrcVOA8QrVGDf1dnb7mFzVIv5oxevwh4nDR5TdcidHA

A dream right now. A dream since years. I post this to have something 
out there as psychological crutch to actually try and start this 
project. The SOL was the Terran ship that traveled farther than any 
other, a ship that saw places and spaces like no other. Inside the 
fandom it's the epic ship even that there were others, more powerful 
ships. But at one time this ship was the sole hope of humanity to 
survive. I might be wrong but the ship was in duty for at least 1.500 
years in the novels. Captured by aliens, regained by humans. After the 
original mission to return to sol after Terra accidentally had been 
moved to a location incredibly far, it always had been a symbol for 
humanities will to survive.

-- 
Some of my PovRay works:
https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/gallery/42758766/3D


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From: Mr
Subject: Re: The insane project - Universe class carrier ship
Date: 15 Jan 2021 14:50:08
Message: <web.6001aa9b60e477a66adeaecb0@news.povray.org>
"Hj. Malthaner" <han### [at] nospamgmxde> wrote:
> Feel free to place bets. In my favorite sci-fi series there was a ship
> called "SOL" for the name of our sun and it's sole purpose to return to
> our galaxy.
>
> It's been labeled a "Universe class battle carrier", cause "Ultra
> Battleship" had been already been taken by the former flagship units.
>
> I want to picture this as an animation. The SOL was a carrier ship made
> of three components. I want to show the ship arriving, and then
> splitting into its three parts. The command and control unit moving to
> the back of the scene, while the two ultra battleship lookalike
> components move forward.
>
> All three components then launch the smaller ships. Cruisers, corvettes
> and fighters. Cruisers themselves carrying fighters again and also
> launch them.
>
> Cuts, camera focusing on the split of the combined ship, the initial
> launch of cruisers and fighters, the forward move of the two ultra
> battle ship parts, then the secondary launch of fighters from the cruisers.
>
> And finally a sweeping look over the combined fleet, the command and
> control module in the back, the two ultra battleships a bit a head and a
> total of 6000 cruisers and fighters lined up ahead of them.
>
> Yes the source was generous with the numbers (google SOL and Perry
> Rhodan for details, little results in English though).
>
>
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/fJkTS5jjpkJYfpPx5780IthviNf2t29gEN9BRvwMYJN7Q9XrDRnOFZcKtd6PtbzzbisZf6mrrcVOA
8QrVGDf1dnb7mFzVIv5oxevwh4nDR5TdcidHA
>
> A dream right now. A dream since years. I post this to have something
> out there as psychological crutch to actually try and start this
> project. The SOL was the Terran ship that traveled farther than any
> other, a ship that saw places and spaces like no other. Inside the
> fandom it's the epic ship even that there were others, more powerful
> ships. But at one time this ship was the sole hope of humanity to
> survive. I might be wrong but the ship was in duty for at least 1.500
> years in the novels. Captured by aliens, regained by humans. After the
> original mission to return to sol after Terra accidentally had been
> moved to a location incredibly far, it always had been a symbol for
> humanities will to survive.
>
> --
> Some of my PovRay works:
> https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/gallery/42758766/3D


You know we'll be there ;-)
Stop dreaming only... start sharing the dream, that's what POV is all about !
(And using frontends to help you is not cheating, its only a better way to do
POV justice.)


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From: Hj  Malthaner
Subject: Re: The insane project - Universe class carrier ship
Date: 19 Jan 2021 04:14:12
Message: <60065c94$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/15/21 3:47 PM, Mr wrote:
> "Hj. Malthaner" <han### [at] nospamgmxde> wrote:
>> Feel free to place bets. In my favorite sci-fi series there was a ship
>> called "SOL" for the name of our sun and it's sole purpose to return to
>> our galaxy.
>>
>> It's been labeled a "Universe class battle carrier", cause "Ultra
>> Battleship" had been already been taken by the former flagship units.
>>
>> I want to picture this as an animation. The SOL was a carrier ship made
>> of three components. I want to show the ship arriving, and then
>> splitting into its three parts. The command and control unit moving to
>> the back of the scene, while the two ultra battleship lookalike
>> components move forward.
>>
>> All three components then launch the smaller ships. Cruisers, corvettes
>> and fighters. Cruisers themselves carrying fighters again and also
>> launch them.
>>
>> Cuts, camera focusing on the split of the combined ship, the initial
>> launch of cruisers and fighters, the forward move of the two ultra
>> battle ship parts, then the secondary launch of fighters from the cruisers.
>>
>> And finally a sweeping look over the combined fleet, the command and
>> control module in the back, the two ultra battleships a bit a head and a
>> total of 6000 cruisers and fighters lined up ahead of them.
>>
>> Yes the source was generous with the numbers (google SOL and Perry
>> Rhodan for details, little results in English though).
>>
>>
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/fJkTS5jjpkJYfpPx5780IthviNf2t29gEN9BRvwMYJN7Q9XrDRnOFZcKtd6PtbzzbisZf6mrrcVOA
> 8QrVGDf1dnb7mFzVIv5oxevwh4nDR5TdcidHA
>>
>> A dream right now. A dream since years. I post this to have something
>> out there as psychological crutch to actually try and start this
>> project. The SOL was the Terran ship that traveled farther than any
>> other, a ship that saw places and spaces like no other. Inside the
>> fandom it's the epic ship even that there were others, more powerful
>> ships. But at one time this ship was the sole hope of humanity to
>> survive. I might be wrong but the ship was in duty for at least 1.500
>> years in the novels. Captured by aliens, regained by humans. After the
>> original mission to return to sol after Terra accidentally had been
>> moved to a location incredibly far, it always had been a symbol for
>> humanities will to survive.
>>
>> --
>> Some of my PovRay works:
>> https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/gallery/42758766/3D
> 
> 
> You know we'll be there ;-)
> Stop dreaming only... start sharing the dream, that's what POV is all about !
> (And using frontends to help you is not cheating, its only a better way to do
> POV justice.)

I'll do my best ... still I feel intimidated by the backstory of this 
ship. Must create something that other fans will find worthy.

More story.

---

A so far unknown race of aliens shows up in the milky way. They proclaim 
they want to make the milky way part of their empire. They also proclaim 
to havce chosen the terrans to be their governors and enforce their law 
in the milky way.

The terrans refuse and start plans to transport their home planet terra 
to a safer place.

The terrans had discovered ancient transport systems of unknown origin. 
Constellations of suns. If something entered the focus point it became 
tranported to another constellations focus point. The terrans had been 
using those systems since a while to relocate fleets.

In a desperate attempt to safe earth, the terrans try to set up a 
transmitter constellation made of sun and a white dwarf. Once done, the 
majority of the terran fleet tugs earth out of orbit and steers it to 
the focus point of the new transmitter. Earth enters the focus and 
vanishes with most of the terran fleet.

At the receiving constellation high officers of the fleet and engineers 
await earth arrival. Earth actually shows up for a moment and then vanishes.

The remaining terrans face the loss of their home world and most of 
their fleet.

Earth appears in a location far away and unknown to the terrans. It's 
steered into orbit of the most nearby sun and terrans try to find out 
where they arived.

It's a place in the universe where no terran ship has ever been, far 
away from the milky way. But the milky way is not out of reach.

A ship is built to be sent back and bring message that earth is still 
existing. Using plans for the new class of military long range carrier 
ships, the already begun new flagship of the fleet is being repurposed. 
The name SOL now being more fitting than ever, it's destination to 
return to the milky way, the home star Sol and bring the news that terra 
and the terrans are still alive.

40 years of travel. More adventures than any other ship has seen. The 
crew of the SOL unleashes the secrets behind the alien empire that wants 
to annexate the milky way.

Children are being born on the ship during those 40 years. The SOL faces 
battles for life and destruction.

The SOL returns to the milky way. The alien invaders can be repelled. 
Terra is being brought back to its rightful place, the orbit around the 
home sun Sol.

The ship eventually is handed to the children of the crew who claim in 
their home and don't want to settle on any planet, having spent all 
their life in space.

It departs and seems to be gone for good.

Centuries later, a caravan of friendly minded aliens visits the milky 
way with 2/3rd of the SOL. They had found the ship wrecked and crashed 
on an planet but restored the logs and brought it back to terra in an 
attempt to start friendly relations.

The gesture is welcomed, the SOL is being repaired and modernized with 
new drives and weapons. It is returned to the terran fleet,

After this point, the SOL has become symbol for the terrans, and has 
been captured at least twice by aliens just to be re-won as flagship by 
the terrans later. While I was following the story, the SOL was in duty 
for 1.500 years eventually.

Plus, the SOL was the only ship ever built with a sentient central 
computer. Much earlier the terrans had established a friendship with a 
sort of sentient goo that lived in symbiosis with a robot civilisation. 
Some of that sentient goo was donated and became part of the central 
computing unit of the SOL. So the ship was not only technology but home 
to a living and sentient entity who was meant to control all the little 
things that the crew could not oversee. And at least once in the travels 
controlled a very large thing thing the crew could not comprehend.

And now I am here, trying to give that ship justice in an animation ....


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The insane project - Universe class carrier ship
Date: 19 Jan 2021 07:38:37
Message: <60068c7d$1@news.povray.org>
Op 19/01/2021 om 05:14 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
> On 1/15/21 3:47 PM, Mr wrote:
>> "Hj. Malthaner" <han### [at] nospamgmxde> wrote:
>>> Feel free to place bets. In my favorite sci-fi series there was a ship
>>> called "SOL" for the name of our sun and it's sole purpose to return to
>>> our galaxy.
>>>
>>> It's been labeled a "Universe class battle carrier", cause "Ultra
>>> Battleship" had been already been taken by the former flagship units.
>>>
>>> I want to picture this as an animation. The SOL was a carrier ship made
>>> of three components. I want to show the ship arriving, and then
>>> splitting into its three parts. The command and control unit moving to
>>> the back of the scene, while the two ultra battleship lookalike
>>> components move forward.
>>>
>>> All three components then launch the smaller ships. Cruisers, corvettes
>>> and fighters. Cruisers themselves carrying fighters again and also
>>> launch them.
>>>
>>> Cuts, camera focusing on the split of the combined ship, the initial
>>> launch of cruisers and fighters, the forward move of the two ultra
>>> battle ship parts, then the secondary launch of fighters from the 
>>> cruisers.
>>>
>>> And finally a sweeping look over the combined fleet, the command and
>>> control module in the back, the two ultra battleships a bit a head and a
>>> total of 6000 cruisers and fighters lined up ahead of them.
>>>
>>> Yes the source was generous with the numbers (google SOL and Perry
>>> Rhodan for details, little results in English though).
>>>
>>>
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/fJkTS5jjpkJYfpPx5780IthviNf2t29gEN9BRvwMYJN7Q9XrDRnOFZcKtd6PtbzzbisZf6mrrcVOA

>>>
>> 8QrVGDf1dnb7mFzVIv5oxevwh4nDR5TdcidHA
>>>
>>> A dream right now. A dream since years. I post this to have something
>>> out there as psychological crutch to actually try and start this
>>> project. The SOL was the Terran ship that traveled farther than any
>>> other, a ship that saw places and spaces like no other. Inside the
>>> fandom it's the epic ship even that there were others, more powerful
>>> ships. But at one time this ship was the sole hope of humanity to
>>> survive. I might be wrong but the ship was in duty for at least 1.500
>>> years in the novels. Captured by aliens, regained by humans. After the
>>> original mission to return to sol after Terra accidentally had been
>>> moved to a location incredibly far, it always had been a symbol for
>>> humanities will to survive.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Some of my PovRay works:
>>> https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/gallery/42758766/3D
>>
>>
>> You know we'll be there ;-)
>> Stop dreaming only... start sharing the dream, that's what POV is all 
>> about !
>> (And using frontends to help you is not cheating, its only a better 
>> way to do
>> POV justice.)
> 
> I'll do my best ... still I feel intimidated by the backstory of this 
> ship. Must create something that other fans will find worthy.
> 
[snip]

A little piece of goo would be helpful at this stage. :-)

I would suggest to drop /all/ the story from your mind and let the 
engineer take over. Just decide which SOL you want to model in the first 
place: The early one or the latter one. Then, while the hardware takes 
shape, pieces of the history will come back and fall into place (or not) 
to be incorporated. Just not to be overwhelmed by (needless) details.

A challenge indeed!


-- 
Thomas


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From: Hj  Malthaner
Subject: Re: The insane project - Universe class carrier ship
Date: 21 Jan 2021 01:52:16
Message: <6008de50$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/19/21 8:38 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Op 19/01/2021 om 05:14 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>> On 1/15/21 3:47 PM, Mr wrote:
>>> "Hj. Malthaner" <han### [at] nospamgmxde> wrote:

>>>> I want to picture this as an animation. The SOL was a carrier ship made
>>>> of three components. I want to show the ship arriving, and then
>>>> splitting into its three parts. The command and control unit moving to
>>>> the back of the scene, while the two ultra battleship lookalike
>>>> components move forward.
>>>>
>>>> All three components then launch the smaller ships. Cruisers, corvettes
>>>> and fighters. Cruisers themselves carrying fighters again and also
>>>> launch them.

[snip]

> I would suggest to drop /all/ the story from your mind and let the 
> engineer take over. Just decide which SOL you want to model in the first 
> place: The early one or the latter one.

The first one, for me being a teenager the time when the story was hot 
and it's been the epic ship for me.

> Then, while the hardware takes 
> shape, pieces of the history will come back and fall into place (or not) 
> to be incorporated. Just not to be overwhelmed by (needless) details.

I think I'll start with very simple shapes. The tricky points here are 
the camera changes and moving all the elements. If I can't get that 
right, detailed models won't help.

I think I'll start with a test, how to open a hangar bay door and start 
the ship, move it along a spline to the destination position. That will 
be something that I need all over.

> A challenge indeed!

Yes. Thanks for the response!

-- 
Hajo


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From: Dick Balaska
Subject: Re: The insane project - Universe class carrier ship
Date: 23 Jan 2021 09:18:51
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On 1/14/2021 11:43 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:

> 
>
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> 

403. Thatâs an error.

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From: Hj  Malthaner
Subject: Re: The insane project - Universe class carrier ship
Date: 27 Jan 2021 00:55:50
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On 1/23/21 10:18 AM, Dick Balaska wrote:
> On 1/14/2021 11:43 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
> 
>>
>>
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>
> Forbidden Thatâs all we know.

I'm sorry. Hope this works better.
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