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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Just three dice...
Date: 17 Oct 2004 21:25:12
Message: <41731b78@news.povray.org>
So there we release three dice over a perfectly plane ground, with identical
initial conditions, but quickly Chaos does its job...


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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 18 Oct 2004 11:09:36
Message: <4173dcb0$1@news.povray.org>
I forgot to mention that this is a stereoscopic animation-you should look
"through" the screen, with an
eye pointing to each half to get the sense of depth, although you can see
any half as a normal animation aniway.


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 18 Oct 2004 11:45:48
Message: <4173e52c@news.povray.org>
I like it, though the dice interpenetrate each other's surfaces... What can
your physics simulation handle?

-- 
"Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 18 Oct 2004 14:12:35
Message: <41740793@news.povray.org>
> I like it,

Thanks :)

> though the dice interpenetrate each other's surfaces...

I know-this was just a test to see how far the three dice keep moving
apparently the same way before cumulative errors completely disguise their
original common state, and what fashion their evolutions diverge in from
then on, so I decided to let the dice interact only with the ground, not
among themselves.

> What can your physics simulation handle?

Well, I wrote an INC-file with a macro to simulate the movement of rigid
bodies under generic force fields, which you have to define by creating
another macro in your scene, and can include interaction among the bodies.
I've rendered a few simulations in four scenes at different stages of the
macro's development (a spinning top, orbiting masses that roughly resemble
the Sun, the Earth and the Moon, a rolling disc, which I finally stuck with
a rod to make another spinnig top, and dice), but unfortunately none of
them-save this one of the dice-fits in the 1-megabyte limit for postings in
this groups, neither did I manage to compress them below the limit.
I see most animations posted in this group are MPEG format, so I wanted to
try it. After quite a while searching among the 3D-animation-related links
in POV-Ray's official page, though, I just found the test version of
MainVision, which inserts a prominent watermark throughout the animation,
and tried to compress my AVI simulations with it, but failed to reduce their
size any further than a tiny extent. Then I still guess I'm missing
something crucial about video compression, yet I've run out of ideas to try
:( so I'd appreciate any advice on the matter.


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From: Shurakai
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 29 Oct 2004 07:40:00
Message: <web.41822ae742e2599c6b3522e90@news.povray.org>
"Frango com Nata" <odo### [at] yahoocombr> wrote:

> Then I still guess I'm missing
> something crucial about video compression, yet I've run out of ideas to try
> :( so I'd appreciate any advice on the matter.

Try out Virtual Dub. It's Freeware and encodes AVI Files from nearly every
source. It's easy to learn and a lot of Tutorials are available in the Net
to learn how to use it. If You are able to use VD than You know everything
important about video encoding. The special things depend strongly on the
encoder You use. Xvid or DivX offer a lot of settings but the default
settings are quite ok.

http://www.virtualdub.org/

Bye, Shu.


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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 21 Nov 2005 11:45:00
Message: <web.4381f8f242e2599c8048c0800@news.povray.org>
"Shurakai" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Try out Virtual Dub. It's Freeware and encodes AVI Files from nearly every
> source. It's easy to learn and a lot of Tutorials are available in the Net
> to learn how to use it. If You are able to use VD than You know everything
> important about video encoding. The special things depend strongly on the
> encoder You use. Xvid or DivX offer a lot of settings but the default
> settings are quite ok.
>
> http://www.virtualdub.org/
>
> Bye, Shu.

Thanks! I've played around with it a little, though now I think my trouble
had more to do with the codecs. Anyway, I'll probably be able to post some
of my animations now.


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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 21 Nov 2005 12:50:01
Message: <web.4382088e42e2599c8048c0800@news.povray.org>


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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 21 Nov 2005 12:55:00
Message: <web.4382090242e2599c8048c0800@news.povray.org>
On the other hand, I'm hosting them at ZippyVideos. Let's start with this:

http://www.zippyvideos.com/8926435672310206/enchimento_com_bilha_novo/*frangocomnata


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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 22 Nov 2005 13:20:01
Message: <web.43835fb342e2599c225239c90@news.povray.org>
I've managed to stuff a stereoscopic pair with the first stages of a
spinning top's dance into a couple of nearly 1 MB GIFs at ImageShack:

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/442/buxainaiiolhoesquerdo2ze.gif for the
left eye, and
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3705/buxainaiiolhodireito6lx.gif for the
right one.

I'm going to upload it into ZippyVideo as soon as I don't find it too hard,
along with my other animations...


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From: Frango com Nata
Subject: Re: Just three dice...
Date: 23 Nov 2005 08:00:01
Message: <web.4384672a42e2599c663e2c5e0@news.povray.org>
<a
href="http://www.zippyvideos.com/4558237162364346/buxaina_ii_supercompressedo/*frangocomnata"><img
src="http://i1.zvhost.com/1/p/php22b1k.jpg" border="0" /></a>


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