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From: Marc-Hendrik Bremer
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 10:02:43
Message: <3c32dac3@news.povray.org>
Rune schrieb in Nachricht <3c32c82d@news.povray.org>...
>"Tony[B]" wrote:
>> The start after the stop was a bit jerky, though.
>
>It's not because I don't want criticism, but I truly can't see this.

I wouldn't call it jerky, but the first step after the stop is indeed only
half a footlength wide (long?). I think that's not that realistic, 'cause
it's a waste of kinetic energy.

Nevertheless it's a great piece of work!

Marc-Hendrik


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 15:00:38
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"Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote :
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> Rune
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 15:39:24
Message: <3c3329ac@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" wrote:
>     When are you going to update your sig?

Thanks for reminding me! :)

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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 18:03:56
Message: <3C334C8B.41E1A720@hotmail.com>
Very good.

Here's a tip that helps make MPGs smaller:

Don't use checker as the pigment for your plane, at least not in the
final rendering.  My first IRTC entry was much smaller (and looked
less like a newby effort) when I replaced the checker pattern with
a granite pattern.

If need be, you can have an if-else-end block to switch between test
renders (because the checker pattern is quite useful for eyeballing
measurements).

Regards,
John
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 19:03:49
Message: <3c335995@news.povray.org>
"Marc-Hendrik Bremer" wrote:
> I wouldn't call it jerky, but the first step after
> the stop is indeed only half a footlength wide (long?).
> I think that's not that realistic, 'cause it's a waste
> of kinetic energy.

I think in reality the first step is indeed often a bit shorter because it
takes the body a little while to get in momentum. However, probably not as
much as this animation. I'll try to figure out why my algorithm places that
step so close to the previous one.

> Nevertheless it's a great piece of work!

Thank you!

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final 2
Date: 2 Jan 2002 19:03:53
Message: <3c335999@news.povray.org>
I've slightly changed the animation. Nothing big - I haven't yet been able
to make that short step longer - but a few minor changes.

I've made AL chew a gum as Dave suggested, I've made a slight breathing
motion for him which isn't really noticeably, but which nonetheless makes
him seem slightly less stiff, and I've modified the ground texture to avoid
checker pattern moiré patterns.

The new version has replaced the old one on my website, so it's available
from the same place.

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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 19:18:09
Message: <3c335cf1@news.povray.org>
"John VanSickle" wrote:
> Very good.

Thanks!

> Don't use checker as the pigment for your plane, at
> least not in the final rendering.  My first IRTC
> entry was much smaller (and looked less like a newby
> effort) when I replaced the checker pattern with a
> granite pattern.

Thanks for the tip! I presume it's the checker pattern seen at a distance
that's the problem? If so I've already updated the animation with a
workaround for that.

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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 20:35:18
Message: <3c336f06$1@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote :
>
>  If so I've already updated the animation with a
> workaround for that.

    Ah! I was finally able to see this one, thanks to a complete destruction
of my QuickTime installation... again...

    Very nice, I see a little extra bounce in the tips of the toes, and he
seems a little heavy, but otherwise -very- nice.


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 21:51:27
Message: <3c3380df@news.povray.org>
"Bill DeWitt" wrote:
> Very nice, I see a little extra bounce in the
> tips of the toes

Well spotted. It's a side effect of using cubic splines for the movement.
They always want to go a bit too far and then back before they stop. Using
more control points may or may not reduce/solve the problem - I never can
remember.

> and he seems a little heavy

Heavy in what way? He's supposed to look a little heavy, like many toons do.
Does it look wrong somehow?

> but otherwise -very- nice.

Thanks! :)

Rune
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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: AL walking, stopping and turning - Final
Date: 2 Jan 2002 22:36:19
Message: <3c338b63@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <run### [at] mobilixnetdk> wrote in :
>
> Heavy in what way?

    The feet seem to hit hard.

> He's supposed to look a little heavy, like many toons do.
> Does it look wrong somehow?

    No, probably fixing the feet will fix it, if it really needs to be
fixed.


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