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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 8 Jan 2009 20:45:00
Message: <web.4966ab9ef560505fc67b294d0@news.povray.org>
"Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3492&p=16
>
>
>
> It's a Phenom II review, but for this benchmark he posted scores from 30
> chips.  Unfortunately, he doesn't state what scene was rendered, number
> of threads used, or anything else.  If I had to guess, it would be
> Render -> Run Benchmark (All CPUs).
>
>
>
> ...Ben Chambers
>
> www.pacificwebguy.com

What would be of real interest would be a comparison of those benchmarks against
3.6 benchmarks for the same chips.

-tgq


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 9 Jan 2009 04:09:01
Message: <4967142c@news.povray.org>
Dan Connelly <djc### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Their use of compressed GeSi alloy to induce uniaxial strain in the
> p-channel transistors, along with continued improvement in n-channel
> performance, then integrating metal gates, has really driven
> performance to levels previously unanticipated.

  Did you just made up that technobabble on the spot? ;)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Benchmarks and reporting
Date: 9 Jan 2009 05:05:31
Message: <2538E719B75F43939248E7AEB782E38F@HomePC>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trevor G Quayle [mailto:Tin### [at] hotmailcom]
> What would be of real interest would be a comparison of those
> benchmarks against
> 3.6 benchmarks for the same chips.
> 
> -tgq

My first thought was "Apples to oranges," since 3.6 is singlethreaded.
But then, some of those chips shown are dual cores, some are quad cores,
and at least one is a quad core with Hyperthreading (leading to 8
virtual cores), so maybe it wouldn't be so inappropriate after all :)

Would you like to volunteer to do said benchmarking?

...Actually, here's an interesting thought: how hard would it be to set
up the "Benchmark" function in POV to report to some central database
stored on the web?  Nothing personally identifiable, of course, just
CPU, RAM, and rendering times (maybe a few other things, like chipset et
al).

...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com

The plural of anecdote is not data  --Elbows


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 9 Jan 2009 08:40:01
Message: <web.49675379f560505f81c811d20@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Dan Connelly <djc### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> > Their use of compressed GeSi alloy to induce uniaxial strain in the
> > p-channel transistors, along with continued improvement in n-channel
> > performance, then integrating metal gates, has really driven
> > performance to levels previously unanticipated.
>
>   Did you just made up that technobabble on the spot? ;)
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

Reminds of some technojargon I ran across in Wikipedia:

"Compression of the median nerve as it runs deep to the transverse carpal
ligament (TCL) causes wasting of the thenar eminence, weakness of the flexor
pollicis brevis, adductor pollicis, opponens pollicis, abductor pollicis
brevis, as well as sensory loss in the distribution of the median nerve distal
to the transverse carpal ligament, sparing the superficial sensory branch given
that its branch point is normally proximal to the TCL and travels superficially
thus avoiding compression."

This is carpal tunnel syndrome in layman's terms...

-tgq


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 9 Jan 2009 09:15:06
Message: <49675bea@news.povray.org>
Trevor G Quayle <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> "Compression of the median nerve as it runs deep to the transverse carpal
> ligament (TCL) causes wasting of the thenar eminence, weakness of the flexor
> pollicis brevis, adductor pollicis, opponens pollicis, abductor pollicis
> brevis, as well as sensory loss in the distribution of the median nerve distal
> to the transverse carpal ligament, sparing the superficial sensory branch given
> that its branch point is normally proximal to the TCL and travels superficially
> thus avoiding compression."

> This is carpal tunnel syndrome in layman's terms...

  I'd hate to see the academic formal definition. ;)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 9 Jan 2009 17:58:39
Message: <4967d69f$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   The information in the wikipedia page about that architectur is also
> interesting. 4 cores, each one supporting (again) hyperthreading, so the
> system sees 8 processors in total.

If the hyperthreading is similar to the P4, it won't help
number crunching so much, though it may help to keep other
applications running more happily while rendering in the
background (probably a good idea to use less than 8
threads for POV-Ray then).


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 10 Jan 2009 03:35:01
Message: <web.49685d1cf560505ff3c0a050@news.povray.org>
"Trevor G Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> "Compression of the median nerve as it runs deep to the transverse carpal
> ligament (TCL) causes wasting of the thenar eminence, weakness of the flexor
> pollicis brevis, adductor pollicis, opponens pollicis, abductor pollicis
> brevis, as well as sensory loss in the distribution of the median nerve distal
> to the transverse carpal ligament, sparing the superficial sensory branch given
> that its branch point is normally proximal to the TCL and travels superficially
> thus avoiding compression."

Yeah, it seems to me that especially medical and mathematical Wikipedia articles
tend to be full of such "expert chinese". Things that make you go, "huh?"


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 10 Jan 2009 05:34:41
Message: <496879c1$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> "Trevor G Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> "Compression of the median nerve as it runs deep to the transverse carpal
>> ligament (TCL) causes wasting of the thenar eminence, weakness of the flexor
>> pollicis brevis, adductor pollicis, opponens pollicis, abductor pollicis
>> brevis, as well as sensory loss in the distribution of the median nerve distal
>> to the transverse carpal ligament, sparing the superficial sensory branch given
>> that its branch point is normally proximal to the TCL and travels superficially
>> thus avoiding compression."
> 
> Yeah, it seems to me that especially medical and mathematical Wikipedia articles
> tend to be full of such "expert chinese". Things that make you go, "huh?"

Frequently the source is also easy to identify: A lot of these articles cite 
some research papers, and if you check you will find the wikipedia article 
simply includes some paragraphs from the papers.

	Thorsten


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 14 Jan 2009 17:50:22
Message: <496e6c2e@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Trevor G Quayle <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> "Compression of the median nerve as it runs deep to the transverse carpal
>> ligament (TCL) causes wasting of the thenar eminence, weakness of the
>> flexor pollicis brevis, adductor pollicis, opponens pollicis, abductor
>> pollicis brevis, as well as sensory loss in the distribution of the
>> median nerve distal to the transverse carpal ligament, sparing the
>> superficial sensory branch given that its branch point is normally
>> proximal to the TCL and travels superficially thus avoiding compression."
> 
>> This is carpal tunnel syndrome in layman's terms...
> 
>   I'd hate to see the academic formal definition. ;)
> 

I think (hope!) Trevor meant "That junk above is, in layman terms, known
as 'carpal tunnel syndrome'".


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Beta 23 benchmarked on a wide variety of chips
Date: 14 Jan 2009 17:51:19
Message: <496e6c67@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> and if you check you will find the wikipedia
> article simply includes some paragraphs from the papers.

Hmm is that legal? What are the usual terms of use for academic papers?


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