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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Why is Povray 3.7 for Windows installed in such a stupid place?
Date: 7 Jan 2009 15:19:32
Message: <49650e53@news.povray.org>
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clipka wrote:
> I guess it's the old question of whether you want a system for standard
> office or home use, or want to do something special with it.
>
> I think there still is no one-size-fits-all OS. Linux is trying to go
> there, but at the heart of it, "everyday use" is just one more "special
> thing" you can do with it, which keeps showing here and there.
http://graphjam.wordpress.com/files/2008/12/song-chart-memes-os.gif
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Why is Povray 3.7 for Windows installed in such a stupid place?
Date: 7 Jan 2009 15:20:05
Message: <49650e74@news.povray.org>
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Darren New wrote:
> Personally, I would have put the single-person install under the "my
> documents" area rather than someplace "hidden", but it's certainly not
> something that Windows makes an obvious place for, yes.
It's not documents. It's application data.
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Why is Povray 3.7 for Windows installed in such a stupid place?
Date: 7 Jan 2009 15:22:40
Message: <49650f0f@news.povray.org>
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Chris Cason wrote:
> While there are work-arounds for many of these issues (e.g. disabling the
> WOW64 file redirection is possible via an API call), I'd rather go with
> the flow than fight the system.
Which would involve sticking to MSI, no matter how that MSI is generated.
Which I think is a good thing.
After so many years (of dealing with 16-bit installshield crap to install
32-bit programs) Microsoft finally added an installer system to the
operating system. Let's use it...
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Why is Povray 3.7 for Windows installed in such a stupid place?
Date: 7 Jan 2009 15:42:28
Message: <496513b4$1@news.povray.org>
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> It's not documents. It's application data.
Well, it's application code, if it's a .exe file. Application data is more
the sort of stuff you'd put in a .dotfile or under /etc in Linux. Thumbnails
of your albums in your photo album software, caches of web pages, etc.
But yeah, there's no good place to put per-user executables under any
version of Windows, methinks.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: Why is Povray 3.7 for Windows installed in such a stupid place?
Date: 7 Jan 2009 18:13:23
Message: <49653713$1@news.povray.org>
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Chris Cason wrote:
> This is a common question, and the fact that it *appears* you can install
> programs on Win64 with a 32-bit executable has been an impediment in
> getting software engineers to understand the issue. Perhaps they have
> updated NSIS to be a 64-bit program now, but certainly last time I looked
> into it, it was only 32-bit, and they had no intention of changing.
While they haven't made it a 64-bit program, they added full
support for installing 64-bit applications. It looks like this
happened around April 2007 / release 2.26, so it might not have
been in the version you tested. For example, the variables
$PROGRAMFILES32 and $PROGRAMFILES64 can be used to select
the desired target directory explicitely. I don't know if
this means they disable some redirection internally.
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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > In Linux you can locally install a whole database server under an
> > unprivileged
> > user's directory and work just fine for development purposes.
>
> Then you move it to another directory and it doesn't work anymore because of
> hardcoded-at-compile-time paths to, for example, config files. Try it with
> POV-Ray! The default Library_Path is set that way.
I don't know what you're talking about. I did this to a PostgreSQL install I
had at some floppy. PostgreSQL also has configurable command-line switches for
telling root and config dir...
I've also had lots of fun in the past by directly exchanging some libs for
others at command-line call time with ldd, /lib/ld-linux (or something like
that) and $LD_LIBRARY_PATH. oh, the feeling of power... :D
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