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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: How to make the animation in pov-ray work
Date: 10 Jan 2004 13:35:02
Message: <400045d6@news.povray.org>
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In article <web.4000256f6da14afe3a5fb9ba0@news.povray.org> , "gregjohn"
<pte### [at] yahoo com> wrote:
> That's not a workable solution for a serious animation project. One would
> have a fixed number of final frames in the project and might want to look
> at various different subsets as one tweaks different parts of the story.
> Looking up and remembering the +KXYZ switches, and retyping 3 to 4 of them
> by hand for EVERY TEST RENDER is just so incredibly user-unfriendly.
Why would you have to retype them for every render? Fact is that you don't,
and editing povray.ini is definetly the absolute wrong way of changing the
setting. Nothing is more trivial than creating a scsne specific INi file.
Maybe you should only give advice that will not screw up a user's setup, or
at least warn about it.
Thorsten
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From: Greg M Johnson
Subject: Re: How to make the animation in pov-ray work
Date: 10 Jan 2004 16:05:58
Message: <40006936@news.povray.org>
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AFAICS, telling someone to go to Clockmod doesn't answer the question of how
to turn on the animation for a newbie.
What I did find in the docs was gibberish about
POVRAY MYOPTS +V OTHER
, which is probably helpful to someone using some DOS-like OS, but no
mention of how to use INI files in the Windows version. Perhaps I'd type
that filename up there in that second white box. You're free to have
indignation at a long-time user not knowing this, but is the answer
rigorously and straightforward-ly there in the docs? I think not.
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: How to make the animation in pov-ray work
Date: 10 Jan 2004 17:13:56
Message: <40007924$1@news.povray.org>
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In article <40006936@news.povray.org> , "Greg M. Johnson"
<gregj;-)565### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> , which is probably helpful to someone using some DOS-like OS, but no
> mention of how to use INI files in the Windows version. Perhaps I'd type
> that filename up there in that second white box. You're free to have
> indignation at a long-time user not knowing this, but is the answer
> rigorously and straightforward-ly there in the docs? I think not.
<http://www.povray.org/documentation/view/101/>
<http://www.povray.org/documentation/view/96/>
Really helps, don't you agree!
Thorsten
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Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in
news:40007924$1@news.povray.org:
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> <http://www.povray.org/documentation/view/101/>
> <http://www.povray.org/documentation/view/96/>
>
> Really helps, don't you agree!
>
FWIW, This seems to be a common problem that many new users of animation
have. They don't understand that they have to render the file myscene.ini
instead of myscene.pov. The docs don't make that very clear either.
I know that it seems blindingly obvious, but a simple blurb in the docs
would help to reduce the frequency of this particular misunderstanding.
--
Tom
_________________________________
The Internet Movie Project
http://www.imp.org/
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gregjohn <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> Looking up and remembering the +KXYZ switches, and retyping 3 to 4 of them
> by hand for EVERY TEST RENDER is just so incredibly user-unfriendly.
I don't know what weird version of WinPOV you have, but at least mine
remembers the contents of the command-line field between renders.
And besides, what does it help to write them in an ini file? You'll have
to re-edit the ini file every time you want to change the settings anyways
(which is a lot more work than editing the text field at the top of the
editor).
And thirdly, putting those scene-specific setting in the main povray.ini
file is just wrong.
In povray.ini you put the settings you want to be default for *all* scenes,
not just the current one.
--
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -
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Tom Galvin wrote:
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>FWIW, This seems to be a common problem that many new users of animation
>have. They don't understand that they have to render the file myscene.ini
>instead of myscene.pov. The docs don't make that very clear either.
>
I thought you were supposed to change POVRAY.INI. Have been doing it for
years.
Greg M. Johnson
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"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
news:web.40058c646da14afe40d56c170@news.povray.org:
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> I thought you were supposed to change POVRAY.INI. Have been doing it
> for years.
>
> Greg M. Johnson
>
While that will work, It makes it hard to keep track of animation settings
for different projects.
--
Tom
_________________________________
The Internet Movie Project
http://www.imp.org/
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Tom Galvin wrote:
>"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
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>> I thought you were supposed to change POVRAY.INI.
>
> While that will work, It makes it hard to keep track
> of animation settings for different projects.
>
True, but then you can comment out different blocks w/ ;
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gregjohn wrote:
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> Tom Galvin wrote:
> >"gregjohn" <pte### [at] yahoocom> wrote in
> >>
> >> I thought you were supposed to change POVRAY.INI.
> >
> > While that will work, It makes it hard to keep track
> > of animation settings for different projects.
> >
>
> True, but then you can comment out different blocks w/ ;
I'm not sure if this is related but I have different ini's for different
projects and use different sections within one ini.
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Remco de Korte <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in news:40084403.60AD4370
@onwijs.com:
> I'm not sure if this is related but I have different ini's for
> different projects and use different sections within one ini.
>
Same here. As an example:
;-----------------------------------------------------------------
Input_File_Name=main.pov
Antialias=On
width=512
height=288
;width=320
;height=180
Quality=9
;Quality=7
;Quality=5
Output_File_Type=N
Output_File_Name=.png
Initial_Frame=1
Final_Frame=9900
Initial_Clock=0
Final_Clock=330
;=================================================================
; Some useful presets for rendering specific scenes
;=================================================================
;SHOT01: Credits
;Start......0
;End.....1349
;
; Subset_Start_Frame=0061
; Subset_End_Frame =0061
;=================================================================
;SHOT02: Bedroom
;Start...1350
;End.....1799
; Subset_Start_Frame=1500
; Subset_End_Frame =1500
and so on...
--
Tom
_________________________________
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http://www.imp.org/
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