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Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
I tried lately the Divx format. It is read fine, but the drivers I
downloaded (for the M$ platform) are not up to it when it comes to
making animations.
Thanks for any information.
Fabien
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Precision :
By high quality, I also mean without graininess, and not too much jpeg
artifacts.
> Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
> high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
> I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
>
> there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
> I tried lately the Divx format. It is read fine, but the drivers I
> downloaded (for the M$ platform) are not up to it when it comes to
> making animations.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Fabien
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news:39871AD8.11B5E0D3@club-internet.fr...
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> Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
POV-Ray produces high-quality animation. :)
> high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
> I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
> there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
From avi2mpg1 readme.txt:
inputfile.avi A windows avi file (you can now specify multiple
input
avi files for encoding to a single output file)
constrained to the following parameters:
Horizontal size: < 4096 pixels
Vertical size: < 4096 pixels
[snip]
Maybe you have an older version? And only use an uncompressed 24-bit RGB AVI
as input or you won't be happy with the results. If you really want DVD
quality then you might try bbMPEG/avi2mpg2
http://members.home.net/beyeler/bbmpeg.html . I can't really recommend it
since I haven't used it but supposedly it'll turn your AVI's into MPEG-1 or
MPEG-2. Again I suggest only using uncompressed AVI's because recompressing
lossy compression sucks... a lot... the MPEG-1 compression won't know the
difference between the good part of an compressed AVI and the artifacts,
it'll try to compress both equally, and waste a lot of space, and probably
introduce more artifacts.
Good Luck!
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Try Smaker a free animation tool from Rad Game Tools @
http://www.radgametools.com/
Regards,
C.J. - POV User
news:39871AD8.11B5E0D3@club-internet.fr...
>
> Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
> high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
> I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
>
> there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
> I tried lately the Divx format. It is read fine, but the drivers I
> downloaded (for the M$ platform) are not up to it when it comes to
> making animations.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
> Fabien
>
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for high quality, like dvds, you're talking huge initial file size. you
figure a dvd is only 750 or so pixels wide, and a two hour movie takes
up 5GB. i think that's around 42 or 43MB per minute. i don't know
about the rest of you, but i find that making a large image and then
reducing it in a paint program comes out better than a small image done
in pov (i've only used bmp. isn't bmp also lossless but without an alpha
channel?). an 800 by 600 image is over one MB. put it in a lossless
avi and i'm not sure what size a single frame ends up (larger or
smaller). but for sure you need an original lossless copy before you go
converting it. fyi, film resolution is like 2500 or 3500 pixels wide
(maybe bigger, but those numbers stick out in my memory). one thing
i've noticed with dvd's is the ability to blow up the image to full
screen and still look good. that may just be due to superior
compression, but i can watch a movie on my monitor at resolution of 1280
by 1024 with few artifacts (although it still looks better on my tv).
anyway, the suggestions by the other guys are all good.
Jetlag wrote:
>
> news:39871AD8.11B5E0D3@club-internet.fr...
> >
> > Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
>
> POV-Ray produces high-quality animation. :)
>
> > high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
> > I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
> > there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
>
> From avi2mpg1 readme.txt:
> inputfile.avi A windows avi file (you can now specify multiple
> input
> avi files for encoding to a single output file)
> constrained to the following parameters:
>
> Horizontal size: < 4096 pixels
> Vertical size: < 4096 pixels
>
> [snip]
>
> Maybe you have an older version? And only use an uncompressed 24-bit RGB AVI
> as input or you won't be happy with the results. If you really want DVD
> quality then you might try bbMPEG/avi2mpg2
> http://members.home.net/beyeler/bbmpeg.html . I can't really recommend it
> since I haven't used it but supposedly it'll turn your AVI's into MPEG-1 or
> MPEG-2. Again I suggest only using uncompressed AVI's because recompressing
> lossy compression sucks... a lot... the MPEG-1 compression won't know the
> difference between the good part of an compressed AVI and the artifacts,
> it'll try to compress both equally, and waste a lot of space, and probably
> introduce more artifacts.
>
> Good Luck!
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Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.
My hard drive is going to suffer, but who cares today with Mega giga large
hard-drives that which go cheaper and cheaper.
> news:39871AD8.11B5E0D3@club-internet.fr...
> >
> > Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
>
> POV-Ray produces high-quality animation. :)
>
> > high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
> > I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
> > there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
>
> From avi2mpg1 readme.txt:
> inputfile.avi A windows avi file (you can now specify multiple
> input
> avi files for encoding to a single output file)
> constrained to the following parameters:
>
> Horizontal size: < 4096 pixels
> Vertical size: < 4096 pixels
>
> [snip]
>
> Maybe you have an older version? And only use an uncompressed 24-bit RGB AVI
> as input or you won't be happy with the results. If you really want DVD
> quality then you might try bbMPEG/avi2mpg2
> http://members.home.net/beyeler/bbmpeg.html . I can't really recommend it
> since I haven't used it but supposedly it'll turn your AVI's into MPEG-1 or
> MPEG-2. Again I suggest only using uncompressed AVI's because recompressing
> lossy compression sucks... a lot... the MPEG-1 compression won't know the
> difference between the good part of an compressed AVI and the artifacts,
> it'll try to compress both equally, and waste a lot of space, and probably
> introduce more artifacts.
>
> Good Luck!
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In article <3987D261.FF76B9F0@yahoo.com>, ryan constantine
<rco### [at] yahoo com> wrote:
>up 5GB. i think that's around 42 or 43MB per minute. i don't know
>about the rest of you, but i find that making a large image and then
>reducing it in a paint program comes out better than a small image done
>in pov (i've only used bmp. isn't bmp also lossless but without an alpha
You mean rather than make a small image in POV, you make a large image
in POV and then use a paint program to reduce the size?
Besides seeming like a waste of time (the time POV takes to render an
image is approximately proportional to the *area*, or approximately a
squared ratio), my experience has been the other way: POV seems to be
able to make better small images; it seems that POV's knowledge of what
is actually in the scene makes it better able to approximate what color
should be at any pixel.
The difference is especially apparent when making simple logos with lots
of clearly defined lines. POV can keep those lines and curves smooth at
tiny sizes; resizing a large POV image inside a graphics editor results
in some pretty ugly lines and curves.
Jerry
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> Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
> high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
> I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
Have you tried mpeg2encode? I found it's one of the best encoder, but it's for
linux...
There is no limitation and you can tweak the parameters to get a very compressed
but still high in quality animation...
> there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
> I tried lately the Divx format. It is read fine, but the drivers I
> downloaded (for the M$ platform) are not up to it when it comes to
> making animations.
Since, I guess you're on Windows, I can't help you with that...
Hope this helps,
Simon
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I work on both platform. Actually I keep switching from Linux to Windows and back.
Linux still lacks a lot of things, but things will change with time.
I am going to give it a try. I do the renders in Linux and compile the pictures in
Windows.
Merci pour l'astuce.
> > Is there on the net some software to create high quality animation ? By
> > high quality, I mean close to the VOB files found on DVDs.
> > I tried avi with a conversion to MPEG ( with avi2mpg1 : Thanks Ken), but
>
> Have you tried mpeg2encode? I found it's one of the best encoder, but it's for
> linux...
> There is no limitation and you can tweak the parameters to get a very compressed
> but still high in quality animation...
>
> > there is a limitation in size : around 360x300.
> > I tried lately the Divx format. It is read fine, but the drivers I
> > downloaded (for the M$ platform) are not up to it when it comes to
> > making animations.
>
> Since, I guess you're on Windows, I can't help you with that...
>
> Hope this helps,
> Simon
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You mean Bink.
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