And lo on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:31:46 -0000, bluetree <nomail@nomail> did  
spake, saying:

> "Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>> Blasphemer! Stone them, stone them!
>
> No. Don't do it. I believe. I believe everything...

Almost as quick as getting Travolta to hit Cruise over the head with a  
shovel; "Yes Scientology does make sense".

>> No you're right they could all Become One With The Mind Of God... ooooo!
>> Or separate from God in a shiny silvery gestalt from which multiple  
>> forms
>> can be made and rule over a race of warriors who... oh wait sorry that's
>> Deep Space Nine.
>
> ^^
> Or they could take the shape of little worm and take over the bodies of  
> some people, who believe everthing (oh, wait, I'm in danger)... oh wait,  
> that was Star Gate... :)

I thought that was Scientology, oh no those are invisible formless little  
'worms'; wait that doesn't make any sens [dong] makes perfect sense, oh  
hey John what's the shovel for?"

>> Hmm think about the types of people who you'd expect to get into Heaven,
>> would you want to spend eternity with them in any form? So the person
>> who's there either a) wants to be there b) has to be there, or is c)
>> stoned.
>
> So b) wouldn't have free will.
> some of c) as well.
> what's about some people of a) who don't want to spend eternity with some
> others?
>
>> Back to the serious bit. I think the gestalt or 'one with the mind of  
>> God'
>> is a possibiity if you think of each individual joining as a voice in  
>> the
>> choir, similar to that voice in your head telling you that you shouldn't
>> eat that gooey cream pie or take a machine-gun to your  
>> co-workers...um...
>> anyway in theory parts could arise that find itself in contest with the
>> majority and might break-away; which would explain the Downfall of the
>> Angels. So that would be a yes to free will.
>
>
> Wouldn't that mean, that those who have a free will, won't be in Heaven?  
> Because they break away and then are kicked out.

Yup you can only get into Heaven via your free will at which point you  
lose it. Hold on I'll get a shovel it'll all make sense in a minute.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
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