And lo on Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:54:35 -0000, Patrick Elliott  
<sel### [at] rraznet> did spake, saying:

> In article <op.t2791mncc3xi7v@news.povray.org>,
> phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk says...
>> And lo on Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:51:07 -0000, nemesis
>> <nam### [at] gmailcom> did spake, saying:
>>
>> > Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:07:12 -0500, nemesis wrote:
>> >> >  the pagans just didn't know any better.
>> >>
>> >> Um, excuse me, used to be a practicing Pagan here.  Raised Lutheran
>> >> first, opted for Paganism, now closer to atheism.
>> >>
>> >> Don't presume to tell me I don't know any better, please.
>> >
>> > That's your problem.  I was talking about the pagan peoples from  
>> before
>> > the covenant and the Word being spread:  they couldn't know it better.
>>
>> Wasn't that the same argument that the Christians used against the Jews?
>> Oh and the same one used by Muslims against Christians (and Jews)?
>>
> Yeah. Pretty much. Understanding of the word of the magic sky fairy
> grows, but only through ***our*** belief system, so all you other rag
> heads, beany tops, and tree huggers are now going to burn in hell,
> because, well... you wouldn't listen when we told you about these great
> improvements in understanding.
>
> Or, as one American Indian was supposed to have said, more or less, "So,
> before you told me about your great god, his word and all the rules I am
> supposed to follow, I would have been saved anyway, but now that I do
> know, if I make the slightest mistake I am doomed? Why did you tell me
> then!?"

Ah no see that's one of the best bits of religion it can be retrospective.  
So all those American Indians were already doomed because they didn't know  
the 'true' way. Don't argue that there was no way they could know, if they  
were worth saving they'd have come to the same conclusions as the correct  
religion and thus not require converting; you know through a vision of  
Jesus or something.

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Phil Cook

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