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Hello,
Attached are two versions of the same image. Both were designed in
Moray. In fact, they're both the same .mdl file. Banner1 was exported to
PovRay for rendering using the "Render>Export". Morays options were set
to render a .png file, yet it ends up being a .bmp
<Note-Had to convert it to .jpg to make it small enough to post>
Banner2 was rendered by using "Render>Raytrace(F9)" It got written
as a .png like it was suppose to. But, now it looks semi
translucent(Notice the extra light near the bends) Why is this? and how
do I tell PovRay to render in .png when I use the Export option?
The object is a Brezier sheet. Banner1 is the way it's suppose to
look. but, since I plan on using the finished image on the Web, I
definitely don't want a 2.25+mb Bit map file..:)
Thanks for your assistence
David
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Attachments:
Download 'banner1.jpg' (18 KB)
Download 'banner2.png' (22 KB)
Preview of image 'banner1.jpg'
Preview of image 'banner2.png'
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Hmm, Interesting.
That was my first attempt to post an image to a NG. I got to
remember to Scale large images down...:) And, the Banner2.png lost it's
black background?
David <dpo### [at] inreach com> wrote in message
news:370af3ae.0@news.povray.org...
> Hello,
>
> Attached are two versions of the same image. Both were designed in
> Moray. In fact, they're both the same .mdl file. Banner1 was exported
to
> PovRay for rendering using the "Render>Export". Morays options were
set
> to render a .png file, yet it ends up being a .bmp
>
> <Note-Had to convert it to .jpg to make it small enough to post>
>
> Banner2 was rendered by using "Render>Raytrace(F9)" It got written
> as a .png like it was suppose to. But, now it looks semi
> translucent(Notice the extra light near the bends) Why is this? and
how
> do I tell PovRay to render in .png when I use the Export option?
>
> The object is a Brezier sheet. Banner1 is the way it's suppose to
> look. but, since I plan on using the finished image on the Web, I
> definitely don't want a 2.25+mb Bit map file..:)
>
> Thanks for your assistence
> David
>
>
>
>
>
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David wrote:
> Hello,
>
*SNIP*
>
>
> The object is a Brezier sheet. Banner1 is the way it's suppose to
> look. but, since I plan on using the finished image on the Web, I
> definitely don't want a 2.25+mb Bit map file..:)
>
Sorry, this has no bearing on your problem, but if it is meant for the web,
I'd suggest using a JPG...the compression will make a 900k bitmap into a
100k or so, with very good quality.
> Thanks for your assistence
> David
>
> [Image]
>
> [Image]
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I don't use Moray, just know about it some. Sounds like you might have
the alpha channel set, although I do see black backgrounds on both here.
The Export is meant to just output the files, Raytrace is simply
outputting the image and with Moray settings. Should be a
"Output_File_Type=N" in the INI used for renders; come to think of it I
don't recall Moray making INI files to accompany the pov and inc files,
just one for itself I think, though I could be wrong. If it doesn't
you'll have to edit POV-Rays povray.ini file (located in \renderer\
folder) to add that line.
Also, that banner being a bezier patch might be double-illuminating too.
You should say which versions of the programs you are using so people
know.
David wrote:
>
> Hmm, Interesting.
>
> That was my first attempt to post an image to a NG. I got to
> remember to Scale large images down...:) And, the Banner2.png lost it's
> black background?
> David <dpo### [at] inreachcom> wrote in message
> news:370af3ae.0@news.povray.org...
> > Hello,
> >
> > Attached are two versions of the same image. Both were designed in
> > Moray. In fact, they're both the same .mdl file. Banner1 was exported
> to
> > PovRay for rendering using the "Render>Export". Morays options were
> set
> > to render a .png file, yet it ends up being a .bmp
> >
> > <Note-Had to convert it to .jpg to make it small enough to post>
> >
> > Banner2 was rendered by using "Render>Raytrace(F9)" It got written
> > as a .png like it was suppose to. But, now it looks semi
> > translucent(Notice the extra light near the bends) Why is this? and
> how
> > do I tell PovRay to render in .png when I use the Export option?
> >
> > The object is a Brezier sheet. Banner1 is the way it's suppose to
> > look. but, since I plan on using the finished image on the Web, I
> > definitely don't want a 2.25+mb Bit map file..:)
> >
> > Thanks for your assistence
> > David
> >
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Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
news:370B7099.B514B221@aol.com...
> I don't use Moray, just know about it some.
Any little bit helps..:)
> The Export is meant to just output the files, Raytrace is simply
> outputting the image and with Moray settings.
I normaly just was the Export option. But, using Raytrace was the only
way I could get it to write in the format I wanted.
Should be a
> "Output_File_Type=N" in the INI used for renders; come to think of it
I
> don't recall Moray making INI files to accompany the pov and inc
files,
> just one for itself I think, though I could be wrong. If it doesn't
> you'll have to edit POV-Rays povray.ini file (located in \renderer\
> folder) to add that line.
I'll look and see if if such a line is there.
> Also, that banner being a bezier patch might be double-illuminating
too.
> You should say which versions of the programs you are using so people
> know.
>
Why would it be double illuminating?
I'm using Moray V3.1(4196) and Povray 3.1a
Thank
David
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Thanks, I'm aware of this. But, Moray/Povray doesn't output to
JPEG(Altought, Povray itself might, I don't know it that well)
The original BMP image was 2.25mb in size. Whereas, the JPEG was only
17k..) Big difference
Thanks for your assistance
David
> Sorry, this has no bearing on your problem, but if it is meant for the
web,
> I'd suggest using a JPG...the compression will make a 900k bitmap into
a
> 100k or so, with very good quality.
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Actually I speak without thinking a lot. I don't really know if bezier
patches "double-illuminate" (triangle meshes do apparently) because I'm
not always up on that kind of stuff.
However, that said, POV version 3.1a wasn't "fixed" as far as this goes,
so maybe...?
Better someone else spoke up rather than me though.
David wrote:
>
> > Also, that banner being a bezier patch might be double-illuminating
> too.
> > You should say which versions of the programs you are using so people
> > know.
> >
> Why would it be double illuminating?
> I'm using Moray V3.1(4196) and Povray 3.1a
>
> Thank
> David
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Bob Hughes wrote:
>
> Actually I speak without thinking a lot. I don't really know if bezier
> patches "double-illuminate" (triangle meshes do apparently) because I'm
> not always up on that kind of stuff.
> However, that said, POV version 3.1a wasn't "fixed" as far as this goes,
> so maybe...?
> Better someone else spoke up rather than me though.
If it were in fact the double illuminate bug appearing it would
manifest itself in both versions of the image and not just one.
The bug is non discriminatory where image file formats are
concerned.
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