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From: Jason Scott
Subject: help
Date: 2 Nov 2000 14:54:45
Message: <3a01c685@news.povray.org>
On the new topic what do they mean by contrast ??? I cant figure that out

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: help
Date: 2 Nov 2000 15:36:44
Message: <3A01D0A1.357DEC0F@pacbell.net>
Jason Scott wrote:
> 
> On the new topic what do they mean by contrast ??? I cant figure that out

"Something a bit more abstract for this round. Opposites or strongly
differing elements united in a scene. Hot and cold, steel and flesh,
black and white, rich and poor, natural and artificial, good and evil,
Linux, Mac, and MS-Windows, winter, spring, summer, and fall. Any
scene bringing together and highlighting contrasts."

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: help
Date: 3 Nov 2000 10:54:22
Message: <8FE1A811Dseed7@204.213.191.228>
Ken wrote:

>
>
>Jason Scott wrote:
>> 
>> On the new topic what do they mean by contrast ??? I cant figure that
>> out 
>
>"Something a bit more abstract for this round. Opposites or strongly
>differing elements united in a scene. Hot and cold, steel and flesh,
>black and white, rich and poor, natural and artificial, good and evil,
>Linux, Mac, and MS-Windows, winter, spring, summer, and fall. Any
>scene bringing together and highlighting contrasts."
>

Could have been my words, mmm actualy are (partly)....


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: help
Date: 3 Nov 2000 11:03:32
Message: <3A02E21C.37CE7FB@pacbell.net>
ingo wrote:

> Could have been my words, mmm actualy are (partly)....

:)

I personally like the concept of this round. As many know I go
through my B&W periods of raytracing and I love the contrast you
can get by adding a splash of color to an otherwise drab or
morbid looking scene. This round offers a lot of great possiblities.

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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: help
Date: 3 Nov 2000 12:49:26
Message: <3A02FAA3.907925B2@spiritone.com>
It is hard to work with at first, because it is so vague. Most of my early
ideas were formed strictly from dichotomies: Yin and Yang, Black and White,
Up and Down... Baseball and Football.

But any contrast works. One of my ideas (which I will make public probably
because I won't be able to do it) is Robert Frosts poem "The Road Not
Traveled." There's a contrast. Anything will work. Beatles vs. the Bee Gees,
Elvis Vs. Jesus (They compare and contrast in a spooky way).
There is a tunnel here in Portland that one end is deep in downtown, full of
concrete and asphalt. Go through the tunnel and you are deep in forest. Even
Mac and Windows offers lots of contrast.

Josh

Jason Scott wrote:

> On the new topic what do they mean by contrast ??? I cant figure that out
>
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From: ingo
Subject: Re: help
Date: 3 Nov 2000 18:35:29
Message: <8FE25C1Bseed7@204.213.191.228>
Ken wrote:

>This round offers a lot of great possiblities.

So, you're finally going to enter, suitable theme and newly acquired speed 
(unless the the job/real life gets inbetween)?

Ingo

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From: J Charter
Subject: Re: help
Date: 3 Nov 2000 19:40:44
Message: <3A035BA8.AA548E75@aol.com>
Yes, my question too, does "contrast" always imply dichotomy, or can three
things be used in "contrast"?

Josh English wrote:

> It is hard to work with at first, because it is so vague. Most of my early
> ideas were formed strictly from dichotomies: Yin and Yang, Black and White,
> Up and Down... Baseball and Football.
>


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: help
Date: 4 Nov 2000 00:09:21
Message: <slrn907682.qjf.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 19:43:20 -0500, J Charter wrote:
>Yes, my question too, does "contrast" always imply dichotomy, or can three
>things be used in "contrast"?
>
>Josh English wrote:
>
>> It is hard to work with at first, because it is so vague. Most of my early
>> ideas were formed strictly from dichotomies: Yin and Yang, Black and White,
>> Up and Down... Baseball and Football.

You could have more than two thing, so a garden with winter in one corner, 
spring, summer and autumn in the others for example. 

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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: help
Date: 10 Nov 2000 15:07:30
Message: <3A0C5583.FD8D88C@spiritone.com>
If it is a clear contrast, I don't see why not. Of course, I'm not an expert in
this. All I know is that I will need ot maintain an open mind when voting this
round. I usually get harsh with "Concept" and I haven't found a good way to vote
that section well.

Josh

J Charter wrote:

> Yes, my question too, does "contrast" always imply dichotomy, or can three
> things be used in "contrast"?
>
> Josh English wrote:
>
> > It is hard to work with at first, because it is so vague. Most of my early
> > ideas were formed strictly from dichotomies: Yin and Yang, Black and White,
> > Up and Down... Baseball and Football.
> >

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: help
Date: 13 Nov 2000 05:27:04
Message: <3a0fc1f8@news.povray.org>
"Josh English" <eng### [at] spiritonecom> wrote in message
news:3A0### [at] spiritonecom...
> If it is a clear contrast, I don't see why not. Of course, I'm not an
expert in
> this. All I know is that I will need ot maintain an open mind when voting
this
> round. I usually get harsh with "Concept" and I haven't found a good way
to vote
> that section well.
>

My latest voting system works like this:

concept 0-9 =  % off-topic in varying degrees
concept 10 = on-topic 100%
concept 20 = defines the topic

I then use this percentage as a multiplier for the other scores. So an image
that gets 5 for concept, being largely off topic, will only get 50% of the
scores I would have awarded in art and technical for an on-topic image of
the same quality. Any image getting 10 or greater for topic gets the full
100% of marks in art and technical.

In other words, scores less than 10 in topic will have a detrimental effect
on my scores for the other catagories. Scores 10 or greater do not affect my
scoring for other catagories.


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