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From: David Buck
Subject: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 6 Nov 2009 04:07:42
Message: <4af3a10e$1@news.povray.org>
I've finished testing the new software and added the entries that 
couldn't be submitted because of the server problems on the last day of 
the contest.

The round is now open for voting.

David Buck


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From: John Coppens
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 6 Nov 2009 23:49:22
Message: <20091106204921.042c8572.john@johncoppens.com>
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:07:41 -0500
David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:

> The round is now open for voting.

Does anyone else have the problems I have with the 'stars' for voting?
They frequently show up as a vertical table of links (very much impossible
to vote as the next line of stars overwrites them). I'm running Firefox
3.5.3 here.

John


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From: pan
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 7 Nov 2009 01:41:10
Message: <4af4d036@news.povray.org>
John Coppens wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:07:41 -0500
>> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>>
>>> The round is now open for voting.
>>
>> Does anyone else have the problems I have with the 'stars' for
>> voting? They frequently show up as a vertical table of links (very
>> much impossible to vote as the next line of stars overwrites them).
>> I'm running Firefox
>> 3.5.3 here.
>>
>> John

Yes, saw the same effects.
Way too much javascript overhead. The number of files that need to be
downloaded is a bunch.
I usually reloaded two - three times to get a final render.

N.B. - to web developers. If you make each document modifying file
equally critical to the viewing of the web page, then the quality of the
'visitor  experience' is exponentially relative to the msec distance of
transmission. (I.E., what works well on a lan/wan may not be so hot
out there is the world wide cloud.)

Regardless, in true POV spiriit I plunged on to come to within
three votes of completing. Tomorrow will be soon enough.

Am glad there wasn't 120+ entries like a few times before.


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From: John Coppens
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 8 Nov 2009 14:54:58
Message: <20091108115457.cadf6856.john@johncoppens.com>
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:41:08 -0800
"pan" <pan### [at] syixcom> wrote:

> Regardless, in true POV spiriit I plunged on to come to within
> three votes of completing. Tomorrow will be soon enough.

Just tried again - I get 'Error 503' (capacity problems) about half the
time, and a mangled voting system the other half. I'm going to try with
Opera or so... Maybe the browser adds to the problems?
If these issues continue, I doubt I'll be able to vote in the 11 days
left.

John


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From: John Coppens
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 8 Nov 2009 15:47:14
Message: <20091108124713.372cacb3.john@johncoppens.com>
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:54:57 -0300
John Coppens <joh### [at] johncoppenscom> wrote:

> I'm going to try with
> Opera or so... Maybe the browser adds to the problems?

Well, in Opera, I could do three more votes before the same problems
started appearing. I did detect the following:

in http://static.irtc.org/style_screen.css Line: 70,

There are 9 'A's which, I believe, shouldn't be there:

.viewing td.rightColumn { text-align:left }


A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A

------------
I suspect this has nothing to do with the actual problem though.
John


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 8 Nov 2009 19:10:32
Message: <4af717a8$1@news.povray.org>
John Coppens schrieb:
> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:07:41 -0500
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> 
>> The round is now open for voting.
> 
> Does anyone else have the problems I have with the 'stars' for voting?
> They frequently show up as a vertical table of links (very much impossible
> to vote as the next line of stars overwrites them). I'm running Firefox
> 3.5.3 here.

Same problem here, with IE 8. Voted for two entries, then the "stars" 
went into mental mode, and don't seem to be inclined to revert back to 
sanity. Redoing from start (close browser, log in again) doesn't help 
either. The problem does not only appear with the entries I haven't 
voted for yet, but also on those I have voted for, and which were ok 
previously.

Many 503 responses, too.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 8 Nov 2009 19:42:58
Message: <4af71f42$1@news.povray.org>
clipka schrieb:
> John Coppens schrieb:
>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:07:41 -0500
>> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>>
>>> The round is now open for voting.
>>
>> Does anyone else have the problems I have with the 'stars' for voting?
>> They frequently show up as a vertical table of links (very much 
>> impossible
>> to vote as the next line of stars overwrites them). I'm running Firefox
>> 3.5.3 here.
> 
> Same problem here, with IE 8. Voted for two entries, then the "stars" 
> went into mental mode, and don't seem to be inclined to revert back to 
> sanity. Redoing from start (close browser, log in again) doesn't help 
> either. The problem does not only appear with the entries I haven't 
> voted for yet, but also on those I have voted for, and which were ok 
> previously.
> 
> Many 503 responses, too.

Tried again after some time, with more success. Only had glitches again 
from the second to last image:

Firstly, on the second to last image the "stars" didn't react properly 
on a single click, and instead needed two clicks to register. Then, when 
clicking "save and next", I got some queer popup about whether I wanted 
to save or execute a file with some cryptic name. When dismissing that 
message by aborting, then clicking "save and next again", I was taken to 
the very first image.

A "direct" attempt to vote on the last image (via the thumbs overview) 
was successful.


Some other suggestions:

- When on the voting thumbs overview, clicking on an image should take 
to the voting page, not the viewing page.

- Having a means to sort the voting thumbs overview according to my vote 
would be a nice thing.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 8 Nov 2009 19:45:08
Message: <4af71fc4$1@news.povray.org>
clipka schrieb:
> Some other suggestions:
> ...

A way to get back from an individual voting page to the voting overview 
thumbs would be pretty neat, too.


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 10 Nov 2009 00:45:46
Message: <4af8b7ba@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> clipka schrieb:
>> Some other suggestions:
>> ...
> 
> A way to get back from an individual voting page to the voting overview 
> thumbs would be pretty neat, too.

I'm going to try getting a version out that replaces the star rater with 
a simple drop-down box. Obviously the star rater is causing too much grief.

Sorry for the problems.  I'll do this as quickly as I can but I have to 
be careful that I don't break anything.

David Buck


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: IRTC site - round open for voting
Date: 10 Nov 2009 01:30:37
Message: <4af8c23d$1@news.povray.org>
David Buck wrote:
> clipka wrote:
>> clipka schrieb:
>>> Some other suggestions:
>>> ...
>>
>> A way to get back from an individual voting page to the voting 
>> overview thumbs would be pretty neat, too.
> 
> I'm going to try getting a version out that replaces the star rater with 
> a simple drop-down box. Obviously the star rater is causing too much grief.
> 
> Sorry for the problems.  I'll do this as quickly as I can but I have to 
> be careful that I don't break anything.
> 
> David Buck

Patch installed.  Try it now.

David Buck


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