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From: Warp
Subject: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 15:51:25
Message: <4a9559fd@news.povray.org>
When the new IRTC site was announced, I made the solemn promise of
submitting an image to its first round. Unfortunately due to laziness
and lack of inspiraction, I might have to break that promise.

  However, I got one idea which could be implementable. Problem is, the
deadline is in less than a week, so there just isn't too much time to do
anything.

  The major problem is that my idea would need a (more or less detailed)
model of a realistic fox, preferably in a certain posture, and I can't
find any such free mesh model on the internet. It might be thinkable to
make a CSG model for this, but there simply isn't time for that. Thus
I would need some existing mesh model. However, I can't find any such
mesh models, nor do I own any software which I could use to model&pose
such a thing.

  I was wondering if anybody here would know where I could find such a
mesh model, or maybe someone has such a model, and maybe a program which
could be used to pose it appropriately, and would donate it for my IRTC
entry.

  Of course this is a desperate request due to the short amount of time
left, but it doesn't hurt to ask...

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 20:36:23
Message: <r07b95t5rh7n551un7leqvoi84jmm57aoo@4ax.com>
On 26 Aug 2009 11:51:25 -0400, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>  Of course this is a desperate request due to the short amount of time
>left, but it doesn't hurt to ask...

If I can manage to download a copy of Daz's Millennium cat I will try convert it
into a fox mesh. What sort of pose do you require?
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Reactor
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 20:55:01
Message: <web.4a95a031525d6ba9d60db48b0@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> When the new IRTC site was announced, I made the solemn promise of
> submitting an image to its first round. Unfortunately due to laziness
> and lack of inspiraction, I might have to break that promise.
>
>   However, I got one idea which could be implementable. Problem is, the
> deadline is in less than a week, so there just isn't too much time to do
> anything.
>
>   The major problem is that my idea would need a (more or less detailed)
> model of a realistic fox, preferably in a certain posture, and I can't
> find any such free mesh model on the internet. It might be thinkable to
> make a CSG model for this, but there simply isn't time for that. Thus
> I would need some existing mesh model. However, I can't find any such
> mesh models, nor do I own any software which I could use to model&pose
> such a thing.
>
>   I was wondering if anybody here would know where I could find such a
> mesh model, or maybe someone has such a model, and maybe a program which
> could be used to pose it appropriately, and would donate it for my IRTC
> entry.
>
>   Of course this is a desperate request due to the short amount of time
> left, but it doesn't hurt to ask...
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp



I am fairly proficient in Wings, but I don't have much animal experience, and I
am still practicing texturing with UV mapping.  Also, Wings doesn't do posing
very well directly, and the project I was working on before (manipulating
meshes using a skeleton macro in pov) is very thoroughly stalled, largely
because my C skills are week, particularly when it comes to writing parsing
code...or understanding the parsing code of others.

Do you know exactly what pose?  Could you find examples of the pose?  I might be
able to give it a whirl.

-Reactor


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 20:56:18
Message: <4a95a172@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom> wrote:
> >  Of course this is a desperate request due to the short amount of time
> >left, but it doesn't hurt to ask...

> If I can manage to download a copy of Daz's Millennium cat I will try convert it
> into a fox mesh. What sort of pose do you require?

  A state of readiness, looking a bit to the side (at the camera), in a
somewhat menacing posture.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 21:15:09
Message: <4a95a5dd@news.povray.org>
Reactor <rea### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Do you know exactly what pose?  Could you find examples of the pose?  I might be
> able to give it a whirl.

  Maybe something like this, but perhaps slightly more menacing:
http://www.1adventure.com/archives/images/frank-red-fox-colorado-lowrescrop.jpg

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Reactor
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 21:40:00
Message: <web.4a95aa84525d6ba9d60db48b0@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Reactor <rea### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > Do you know exactly what pose?  Could you find examples of the pose?  I might be
> > able to give it a whirl.
>
>   Maybe something like this, but perhaps slightly more menacing:
> http://www.1adventure.com/archives/images/frank-red-fox-colorado-lowrescrop.jpg
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp


There was, a while back, a series of media fur macros.  I think you were
involved with them, the PCM hair macros?  The links I have are broken (I think
because geocities shut down), and I don't know much about how it worked, but I
was wondering whether or not a "bald mesh" of fairly simple geometry would work
in conjunction with those.

-Reactor


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 21:42:48
Message: <f1bb955s7m0h2joct8793eg56b3sgnsggo@4ax.com>
On 26 Aug 2009 16:56:18 -0400, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>Stephen <mcavoysAT@aoldotcom> wrote:
>> >  Of course this is a desperate request due to the short amount of time
>> >left, but it doesn't hurt to ask...
>
>> If I can manage to download a copy of Daz's Millennium cat I will try convert it
>> into a fox mesh. What sort of pose do you require?
>
>  A state of readiness, looking a bit to the side (at the camera), in a
>somewhat menacing posture.

I'll see what I can do and what the mesh looks like in PovRay. (The new(er)
method of Poser hair does not translate well when converted by PoseRay)
If I can't get a fox I can do a bear, dog, cat, lion (male) or wolf as I already
have those models.

I'll post a quick wolf image in p.b.i so you can see what it looks like.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 26 Aug 2009 22:00:36
Message: <4a95b084@news.povray.org>
Reactor <rea### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> There was, a while back, a series of media fur macros.  I think you were
> involved with them, the PCM hair macros?  The links I have are broken (I think
> because geocities shut down), and I don't know much about how it worked, but I
> was wondering whether or not a "bald mesh" of fairly simple geometry would work
> in conjunction with those.

  Actually for my purposes a smooth model would work just fine. No need for
modelled fur.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 27 Aug 2009 20:38:19
Message: <jird959341im1j9ah410t36rf38v6qplak@4ax.com>
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:42:27 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:

>I'll see what I can do

Sorry Warp but I can't get the file so I can't make a fox :(
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Reactor
Subject: Re: Seeking assistance
Date: 28 Aug 2009 00:40:00
Message: <web.4a972691525d6ba9aebdc0380@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:42:27 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>
> >I'll see what I can do
>
> Sorry Warp but I can't get the file so I can't make a fox :(
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen

Meanwhile, mine looks like something between a wolf made of cardboard boxes
mixed with a crude representation of Anubis.

I'm having fun, though!

-Reactor


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