Marc Schimmler <sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote in message
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> At least twice photoshop has been named as rendering tool for
> the IRTC.

I use PhotoShop almost everyday at work -- no it is not a
rendering tool (and I submitted votes accordingly for the pieces
that claimed it as their rendering tool).  It does have a native
"3d" filter (more of an extrusion tool, IMO), but it is not a
renderer.

Third-party plug-ins were used extensively in at least one of the
images, but they're not "renderers" either.

I don't think the person who submitted them was trying to be
deceptive (if he was, he wasn't very good at it -- as anyone who
read his text file will testify ;), I'm guessing that he just
didn't read a single thing at the IRTC site and does not know
what raytracing is.

Claire

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jivvy wrote:
> 

> I don't think the person who submitted them was trying to be
> deceptive (if he was, he wasn't very good at it -- as anyone who
> read his text file will testify ;), I'm guessing that he just
> didn't read a single thing at the IRTC site and does not know
> what raytracing is.
> 

Either that, or he tried to be able to vote more than one time,
using different adresses... relying on an automated procedure,
it may succeed.

After all, on previous round, only 31 votes were completed
 (for 86 images). If he voted three times, it would have make
 a 10%. Using 20/20/20 for his, and 1/1/1 for others, it 
may represent a variation of two points (not sure, may be more,
may be less, I leave it to the math-people), boosting his ranking!

--
It's not because I'm paranoid that the world is not after me!

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"J. Grimbert" wrote:

> It's not because I'm paranoid that the world is not after me!

I think that quote should actually read like this -

"Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean the world isn't really after me!

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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Everyone hates me because I'm paranoid!

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I will take it that by rendering you refer to some kind of 3d thing or what
may be called Ray Tracing. Although, there are other means to produce 3d
stuff that through raytracing.
In this case Photoshop does not have this (ray tracing) capability. However,
I must tell you that it is a rendering tool. Just as a pencil sketch is a
rendering. Just as a painting and a photograph is a rendering. I must also
tell you that most 3d artists do use photoshop to enhance there images after
the so called rendering.
So, let them in the competion, however because they ARE off topic they get
no vote s from me.

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:38:25 -1000, "Wesley Credille"
<Wes### [at] hawaiirrcom> wrote:

>I will take it that by rendering you refer to some kind of 3d thing or what
>may be called Ray Tracing. Although, there are other means to produce 3d
>stuff that through raytracing.
>In this case Photoshop does not have this (ray tracing) capability. However,
>I must tell you that it is a rendering tool. Just as a pencil sketch is a
>rendering. Just as a painting and a photograph is a rendering. I must also
>tell you that most 3d artists do use photoshop to enhance there images after
>the so called rendering.
>So, let them in the competion, however because they ARE off topic they get
>no vote s from me.

The IRTC rules are very clear on what is allowed and what is not. Any
3D rendering algorithm is allowed, raytracing, scanline, radiosity, or
combinatios there of (or others). The definition they use exludes
building an image in a paint program, though ceratain elements in it
such as textures, bump maps, height fields and others may be created
this way. Post-processing is also forbidden except for adding
copyright and image information, conversion and resizing and maybe
gamma correction.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700

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J. Grimbert <jgr### [at] atos-groupcom> wrote in message
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> Either that, or he tried to be able to vote more than one time,
using different adresses... relying on an automated procedure, it
may succeed.<

It's entirely possible, but I *like* living in my little fantasy
world where I get to believe that people are generally more
ignorant than sleazy...

la la la la la la la la...

Claire <decidedly oblivious> Amundsen Schaeffer

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Marc Schimmler wrote:
> 
> At least twice photoshop has been named as rendering tool for
> the IRTC. Before I vote on these pics I have to know if
> Photoshop 5.5 has a render machine I didn't know of. If not
> these pics might be produced totally by the means of
> postprocessing and should be removed ...
> 
> canyon.jpg
> caazi.jpg
> 
> Anyone with information?

	It has functions on the filter menu that it calls rendering.
They are not rendering in the sense meant by the competition
rules. 

-- 
When in the course of human events?

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Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>         It has functions on the filter menu that it calls rendering.
> They are not rendering in the sense meant by the competition
> rules.
> 

Thank you Matt. I already mailed the admins and they are checking the
whole thing now. It's up to them now.

Marc

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Only if the theme were "Robots."  Would then a 3d robot using a crayon be OK?

Tom Melly wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, would a picture created by a robot using PhotoShop
> 5.5 be okay?

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