POV-Ray : Newsgroups : povray.off-topic : Irony : Re: Irony Server Time
7 Sep 2024 19:17:43 EDT (-0400)
  Re: Irony  
From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 29 Apr 2008 22:37:19
Message: <MPG.228189499e2cb9fe98a14e@news.povray.org>
In article <481### [at] hotmailcom>, a_l### [at] hotmailcom 
says...
> > The most common tactic is to borrow the idea, claim you came 
> > up with it, then vigorously deny it existed "before" you borrowed it.
 
> > The Catholic church is an expert on that, given that, if what many 
> > scholars now consider to be true is, nothing from the NT itself to thei
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> > rituals, holidays, saints, or **anything** is original. Its all been 
> > borrowed from whom ever was the biggest threat to them at the time. lol
> 
> I think it is hard to tell and I would not say it so boldly. Anyway even
 
> the things adopted from other groups were often also adopted by that 
> group before. And...
> 
True enough. Even the OT god seems to be a mish mash of stuff from 
believers in gods like El. There is even the funny little bit suggesting 
that everything, or at least you can interpret it as such, was created 
by "gods", of which just the one in the OT got all whiny about people 
worshiping someone else. Its damned odd wording used, if there was only 
one, and it can't be the so called Trinity, since that didn't really 
appear until the NT.

But, we can see from proximity and shared culture that, given the facts, 
it seems quite likely that a lot of Christianity is borrowed, and even 
who it would have logically been borrowed from. In any culture other 
than Rome, where gods, and variations of gods, where popping up like 
mushrooms, its highly unlikely that the particular mix of myth, events, 
etc. would have gotten attributed to a messiah. And.. Then there is the 
whole issue with how it could be the "correct" messiah, starting with 
the assumption of the OT being the starting point, when the OT predicted 
a war lord and kind, not a, "Give the local ruler what he claims is his, 
it doesn't matter, as long as you believe in me!", type. Even the 
passages about him coming to bring a sword are absurd, given that he 
didn't start any wars, fight any battles, etc. It would seem to have 
been added to give some metaphorical credence to the idea that he really 
was the predicted messiah, for... you know, the same sort of stupid 
people that fall for, "There is a gay agenda to make other people 
gay!!", BS in this century. Its inconsistent with both the way he is 
portrayed as acting, and the historical facts, which suggest at best 
that things where already on the road to disaster, and, more to the 
point, that the only thing Christianity may have done is provide a 
temporary rally point for *some* members, when the whole thing burned 
down, for reasons not even connected to the existence of the new 
religion.

But, yeah. Saying that "nothing" about it was original might be a bit 
overstating things.

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