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Actually, someone on one of the threads at PZ described the problem
pretty well:
"The intolerant, religious and otherwise, have, through their
stranglehold on much of society, redefined "respectful" so that anything
less conciliatory than "well, I don't agree with you on that *apologetic
smile, shrug*" - including calmly giving reasons WHY one disagrees - is
considered "disrespectful." And unfortunately they've done it so
efficiently that many of us unconsciously use words the way they've
redefined them."
The ones that opt not to unconsciously use those words, get called every
sort of negative thing possible, even if the words where contained in
one sentence, and there are 10 paragraphs of scientific facts and
explanations for just *why* the crazy BS they claimed is in fact wrong.
That is the usual content of stuff on PZ's site. The stuff that involves
just pointing out stupidity, and calling it such, *still* tend to link
to the story or event, and explain why PZ thought it was crazy and
stupid.
Now, the other side.. They can't even link to, or accurately give
citations, of stuff they insists "proves" their point. Worse, half the
points they come up with have no basis in fact, but are reposts of
someone else's blog, quoting someone's book, which quoted a page of
professes quotes, of things copied from someone claiming to have quoted
a paper, which was once written by some famous person, but for which
**no** evidence exists to suggest that the quote is representative of
anything they would have said or did, nor that the supposed letter,
document or book had ever existed. And if that sounds confusing, imagine
the frustration of the people trying to track down where the hell they
get some of their supposed "quotes from the founding fathers"... Most of
them can be traced back, via links, searches and chronology of when the
pages first appeared (according to archiving sites), to one web site.
And that one, doesn't even pretend to give any references, links and/or
citations of the sources of them.
It is like someone quoting historical details from the TV show Sliders,
as evidence. made even more absurd when some people dig up the "real"
origins of some of the tales. One example. A hugely famous one of theres
describes Jefferson going to a church and having a military band play
for the congregation. The actual events involve 1) a pastor quoting
something he claimed, back when he was ten, that his friend had heard
Jefferson say about religion, while that friend supposedly saw Jefferson
going to a church. There is no evidence the event wasn't just made up,
and lots of evidence to suggest that Jefferson wasn't social enough to
have been seen going around to churches, or that he would have said
anything positive about them. 2) a news article posted by a women who
visited the capitol for the paper she worked for. Her article made it
clear that a) while some pastor occasionally spoke at the start of the
meeting, no one paid much attention, b) it was more of a mens club, to
talk about their day, issues, etc. and c) Jefferson did have the
military band play there, not as something linked to the vague service
that they allowed, but to impress the reporter.
I mean, how dumb do you have to be to make up an event based on third
hand hearsay + events in a news article, which **anyone** can look up in
the national archives? Apparently, not very, since its posted as fact,
and repeated on almost every site that attempts to claim that the
founders wanted Christians to run things. :p
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