In article <47e7ae40@news.povray.org>, war### [at] tagpovrayorg says...
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> > Although his right to offend Muslims falls under the freedom of 
> > expression, many people think that it is unwise because of the expected
 
> > violent reaction in Islamic countries.
> 
>   Some people say that freedom of expression does not give the right to
> insult people based on things like their religion.
> 
Then there is the other side, which is, "Why is it that this only seems 
to count for the prevailing religion of the people complaining about it 
being insulted (even when described would be more accurate)?", and, "Why 
should religion get that privilege in the first place, since the 
followers of it obviously find no reason to get pissed if you argue 
about the flaws of religions they don't believe in, or which no one 
follows any more?" Oh, and then there is stuff like scientology, where 
the US method of handling religion means you can't touch it, even though 
you know its insane, dangerous, and doing harm to people.

But, the truth is, even in the US, the *entire* argument amounts to 
force. We believe X, we think X should have greater worth than any other 
opinion, and we **will** use every means we can, from legislation, to 
court cases, to teaching people's kids our version, to *make* you accept 
it, and we have the force to make that happen. The only difference is 
the tools used, not the rhetoric, the denial of basic facts, the failure 
to recognize the damage being done, or the rapid adherence to the 
position that everyone else is out to get them, because it defies some 
other alternative dogma.

Got one guy that recently proved that you can add specific enzymes to 
the tail of a chicken, as its still developing, and end up with a tail 
like that of the prior dinosaurs it came from. The only arguments 
"allowed" are going to be, a) its faked to make it look like evolution 
is true, or b) they actually triggered the "master" program that was 
designed to produce all of the "kinds" that exist today. That these 
people hold 180 degree contrary positions doesn't matter, nor does the 
fact that the later one, while nuts, doesn't effect science much (if 
anything it just leaves them with the need to prove the "master 
program" exists, rather than just asserting that it does), nor does it 
matter that the later would "prove" common descent, which is precisely 
what the former insists didn't happen. Its enough to give make your head 
explode...

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