In article <47e5baf2@news.povray.org>, evi### [at] hotmailcom 
says...
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
> > Well, for people that shoot themselves in the foot, this one had to an
 
> > RPG. PZ Myers, a fairly well known, but hardly world wide known, name i
n 
> > the so called debate between 1 AD theology and 2008 AD science, and who
 
> > was interviewed, (or more like mugged), for the movie Expelled...
> 
>  From www.uncommondescent.com:
> 
> "So it really is pathetic of Dawkins, et al to complain that when they 
> were interviewed for Expelled they didn?t know that the film was 
> inherently unfriendly. These are interviewees who received pre-agreed 
> questions, signed release forms after the interviews were conducted, and
 
> actually got paid for their time."
> 
> Regards,
> John
> 
All of which is a lie. They where told it was going to be for a 
completely different movie, which was going to be even handed, despite 
the fact that a) the movie site for the *real* title turns out to have 
been purchased by the producers *before* the interviews ever took place 
(a fact only uncovered much later), and b) trying to claim that 
evolution leads to atheist, which leads to Hitler is not even handed at 
all, even if you ignore the fact that 1) Hitler wasn't an atheist, so 
its stupid to start with or 2) that they don't either describe what 
Intelligent Design is in the movie, or get one single fracking thing 
they say about what evolution says right.

In other words, they lied about what the movie was going to be about and 
what the title was, then proceeded to make something that is nothing but 
a mind boggling rehash of standard creationist BS, while still trying to 
claim that its not about creationism, but some sort of science. Well. 
Well the frell is the science already, instead of the endless lies, 
historical revisionism, misquotes and absurd complaints about vast 
conspiracies?

That you are using uncommon-density as source material tells me all I 
need to know about how much you understand about the subject, or how 
badly distorting the ID view of it is. They can't even describe how they 
approached PZ and Dawkins without lying about what really happened, 
despite the fact that the chronological evidence, and the simple facts 
available, all say the opposite.

And, even if it was true, it still wouldn't change the fact that they 
intentional chose to misuse the statements of two prominent biologists, 
to make it sound like they meant things other than what they intended. 
That is illegal. But, as DI well knows, its not something you can 
successfully sue someone over unless you can prove actual damages. Since 
the point hasn't, so far, been to get Dawkins or PZ fired, or anything 
substantial, but rather to just misrepresent science, its just not worth 
wasting money and court time on fighting people, where words and facts 
are more useful, and where only Dawkins really has the money to sue, or 
the time to bother, in the first place.

Oh, wait.. I forgot, the secret cabal is paying PZ like some sort of 
high level Russian official, and got him a "trophy wife"... The people 
that run uncommondescent have trouble opening their mouths without 
lying. And I would be **quite** happy if one of them decided to sue me 
for saying so. Its only slander if its not true, and such a case would 
be fracking Dover all over again.

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