In article <op.t5m1okjkc3xi7v@news.povray.org>, 
phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk says...
> And lo on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:22:57 -0000, bluetree <nomail@nomail> did 
 
> spake, saying:
> 
> > "Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> >> It's got those harps and clouds and the fullsome sense of smugness  
> >> caused
> >> by being there.
> >>
> >> Okay in all seriousness if everyone thinks the same way in Heaven then
> >> it's possible that the only way in is to display those same traits on
> >> Earth. Therefore you have no free will nor free will to lose you are
> >> simply repeating your Earthly actions in Heaven. If you were the type 
of
> >> person to become disatisfied with that then you wouldn't have been  
> >> allowed
> >> in. Satan/Lucifer/Adversary doesn't count as he was always in Heaven.
> >
> > Not to sound blasphemous.
> 
> Blasphemer! Stone them, stone them!
> 
> > But who says that there are individuals. If there might be no free will
,  
> > it could also be, that there are no individuals... (invalid logic, but 
 
> > doesn't matter)
> > I can't imagine a lot of individuals playing all time similar or same 
 
> > songs with harp. ;)
> 
> No you're right they could all Become One With The Mind Of God... ooooo! 
 
> Or separate from God in a shiny silvery gestalt from which multiple forms
  
> can be made and rule over a race of warriors who... oh wait sorry that's 
 
> Deep Space Nine.
> 
> > "the fullsome sense of smugness caused by being there" sounds like ther
e  
> > might be something, which changes the way you are. -> So no individual 
 
> > anymore? ;)
> 
> Hmm think about the types of people who you'd expect to get into Heaven, 
 
> would you want to spend eternity with them in any form? So the person  
> who's there either a) wants to be there b) has to be there, or is c)  
> stoned.
> 
> Back to the serious bit. I think the gestalt or 'one with the mind of God
'  
> is a possibiity if you think of each individual joining as a voice in the
  
> choir, similar to that voice in your head telling you that you shouldn't 
 
> eat that gooey cream pie or take a machine-gun to your co-workers...um...
  

This would differ from our understanding of modern neuroscience in what 
way, I mean other than the fact that, with rare exceptions, most of the 
other people in our heads don't get the final vote on what to do, but 
just chime in a lot? And what would the point of that be "for" God? 
Having billions of chattering voices chiming in about all the stuff they 
want him to do next all the time, where his sole gain from that is 
that... he gets to *pick* which ones to listen to, but without all the 
complex neurological filters "we" have that are supposed to make the 
crazier people in our own heads stay quiet. People without those filters 
(or rather with broken ones) tend to be what we call bipolar, and other 
similar disorders. One minute they are listening to the devil on the 
shoulder, the next the angel, and they *personally* can't tell the 
difference. Always thought God had to be completely nuts, by the crazy 
definitions given for his behavior, but gluing billions of people, each 
with their own collection of crazy people in them, into a mess that 
hasn't got the filters we do, would **make** any such entity nuts, if it 
wasn't to start with.

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