In article <47678cb6$1@news.povray.org>, z99### [at] bellsouthnet says...
> Fun thing about Darwin, even he knew that his hypotheses had gaps, and 
> afaik himself changed specifics of his theories as he got new data and 
> conversed with other scientists.  Darwin wasn't all "huah!  here's 
> evolution, this is how things are, the end".
> 
Yeah. Its amazing how some people completely fail to grasp that concept. 
Here is another good one, some moron from Times New Republic (I think 
that is what TNR is) basically stated yesterday that he thought it was 
undemocratic and illiberal of the "New Atheists", what ever the frack 
that is, to a) challenge religion, b) suggest alternate view points, or 
c) try to write books about their views and/or argue with people. He 
then proceeded to claim that all us horrible people, who, in the case of 
Dawkins especially, have said time and again that we don't think making 
stupidity illegal would do any good, would be possible, or that robbing 
people of the right to make that choice would be a moral thing to do, we 
are never the less, according to this nitwit, planning to make religion 
illegal and shove all 2.5 billion of the fools that believe it into 
gulags... WTF?

Lets be real clear here. We have no problem if you want to believe in 
Allah, Jesus, the Great Pumpkin, or the FSM, just so long as you don't 
**demand** that your view, and only your view, be the central foundation 
of everything in the universe. They just need to force their crazier 
ideas on someplace else, like their local, Fundie only, gated community 
or something. Yet, the moment any of us suggests that tolerance doesn't 
mean, "Ok, you get what ever the hell you want, and we have no say in 
any of it.", and no matter how ***clear*** we are about what we will 
tolerate, the first thing fundigelicals all scream is how we are a) 
unpatriotic, b) too liberal/not liberal enough (make up your minds 
people...), c) planning to make their beliefs illegal, d) trying to 
force ours on them, etc. And they react by...:

1. Sending people to jail without trials, because they "look" like they 
might be terrorists and came from the wrong nationality
2. Undermining civil liberties right and left.
3. Trying to force their religion into even places it previous was 
absent from before, including trying to drive a wedge into science, so 
they can replace *all of it* with, I don't know, Tarot cards, entrails 
reading and tea leaves or something?
4. Threatening, in some cases, to deport us to some place.
5. Calling us various unimaginative names.
6. Misrepresenting what we say at every opportunity (and often in total 
contradiction to each other or anything we did write or say).
7. And blaming us for everything from hang nails to world wars, while 
generally doing everything they can **legally** manage to do to people 
with a different opinion to theirs as possible, then, as in the case of 
some of Bush's people, giving each other pardons for stuff that would in 
any other time of war gotten them shot (and not by liberal atheists, but 
by their own fellow conservatives).

In other words, they can't imagine anyone else not wanted to do this 
sort of crap to other people, because after all, its **exactly** the 
shit they pull the moment they have political power, so like... 
obviously everyone is just as amoral, unethical and machievalian as they 
are. Its starting to piss a lot of people off, including liberal 
Christians, which is why so many books are getting published, and why 
they have resorted to calling Christians that don't agree with all their 
BS "liberal atheists" and "not real Christians" as well. Mind you, the 
best one is how atheists, who have no priests, no churches, no vast 
organizations, no central dogmas, no mythology to enforce, or anything 
else needed to form a conspiracy, and who don't conduct huge million 
people tent revivals, run huge networks dedicated to praising their 
beliefs, or any of the other insane excesses used to convert people to 
religion, are all out to convert people to atheism. How exactly? Via 
Telepathy, which we don't believe in? If one guy writing a book that 
calls religious people kooks is enough to *convert* 2.5 billion people 
to atheism, let along a few thousand, then by Zod, someone's belief 
system has some ***serious*** problems. lol If faith in Christianity is 
that fragile, I should be able to put on a T-Shirt of the new scarlet A 
atheism symbol and by the end of the block have half the town following 
me around like dogs following a bitch in heat.

For any of the conspiracies they claim, the power they suggest we have, 
or the intent we supposedly hide about what to do with them to be true, 
there would have to be entire landfills with dead bodies in them, an 
organization like the Magesterium in the Dark Materials series some 
place, and entire armies marching across the planet to wipe them out. 
Hell, some of them insist that us publishing our views on the web, and 
writing books, **might** be more dangerous to the western world than a 
dozen countries filled with Islamic Fundamentalists that like to fly 
planes into the sides of buildings. One doesn't have to be paranoid to 
believe this idiotic nonsense, they have to be so far past insane that 
trying to treat them would send their psychologists to the rubber room, 
to keep them from killing hurting themselves from shear incomprehension, 
horror and despair. We don't need to look for alien life forms that 
think so different from us that its impossible to communicate with them. 
They are already living among us. lol

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