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From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 18 Nov 2007 20:34:39
Message: <MPG.21aa95d7ec4397ba98a07a@news.povray.org>
In article <473### [at] hotmailcom>, a_l### [at] hotmailcom 
says...
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
> > In article <473dde89$1@news.povray.org>, 
> > gal### [at] libertyALLsurfSPAMfr says...

> >>>   Take any unsolved question in science, which science has yet not an
> >>> answer to, and present the theory "it happens because invisible gnome
s
> >>> do it from inside the Earth". Even if the scientist doesn't have any
> >>> alternative theory to that, it's still completely valid for him to do
ubt
> >>> that presented theory.
> >>>
> >> The doubt in this case is for a completely valid reason. A key point
 
> >> with any scientific theory is that you have to be able to challenge it
. 
> >> Your little gnomes are hard to test for empirically...
> >>
> >> So the scientist still does not have a scientific theory, in that case
.
> >>
> > Yeah. The first problem seems to be that ID people think *theory* means
 
> > "guess". It doesn't. 
> More precisely they think that 'theory' in a scientific context means 
> the same 'theory' as used in everyday practice. Possibly even more 
> precise, they think that 'theory' means what they choose it to mean, 
> neither more nor less.
> 
Want another bit of silliness:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626303.600-evolution-wars-take-
a-bizarre-twist.html

DI is claiming that this: "Q: Can you accept evolution and still believe 
in religion? A: Yes. The common view that evolution is inherently anti-
religious is simply false." in a package that includes the movie about 
the Dover trial constitutes an attempt to insert religion into 
classrooms, and therefor schools could be sued for it...

So, schools can be sued for showing a documentary about a trial, in 
which the losers of the trial lost *because* they tried to interject 
their own religion into schools? Mind you, I am not sure that its 
entirely appropriate to include that statement as part of the package, 
unless its merely quoting a statement, as example, from the trial 
itself, but this is just absurd. Though not as absurd as the hate mail, 
death threats and insanely irrational letters sent into PBS by love thy 
neighbor, self proclaimed rational, not hate filled Christians. lol And 
its only *them* that are sending in the letters like that.

These people are imho, even **less** rational than Moslom extremists, 
since at least they have *some* excuse for thinking that they have been 
mistreated in some way. These people control, or at least think they do, 
large parts of the country, but if you so much as mildly suggest that 
they possibly don't have the right to make you waste a minute letting 
them, for example, pray before a class, they start screaming that you 
are the spawn of the devil, trying to undermine their faith, and might 
even be an atheist, or worse (and this I find absurdly funny), a 
liberal.

One person just described the logic of one such person they ran into 
though. They didn't like evolution, not because they understood it, but 
because they ***literally*** thought that the charts in some books where 
real, and the way you got from a fish to a human was that one day a fish 
decided to be human, and in some sort of time lapse accelerated style 
mutations, went through every stage in between the two, in one single 
organism, leaving you with a human that **used to be** a fish five 
minutes earlier. It certainly explains the nuts that keep whining about 
how we never see dogs giving birth to elephants I guess, and similar BS.

The other silly one is the argument about how there wouldn't be monkeys 
if they all evolved into humans. A logical idiocy right up there with 
suggesting that if three people went to the beach the entire human race 
would wake up with a sun tan the next morning.

Its just mind boggling the level of either ignorance, stupidity, or both 
some of these literalists and far right wingers think evolution says, or 
reality looks like. And the fact that they are, according to a new study 
I just saw, like 1% of all Christians, and thus like 2 billion plus 
people disagree with them, not to mention all but like 0.0001% of 
biologists, ecologists, (insert an ist here that deals with biology, 
instead of something like physics), doesn't seem to clue them in at all. 
Some times I read the stuff and wonder how we as a species managed to 
get past the stage of stuffing twigs into holes to fish out ants and 
termites.

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