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  Re: Getting Kenned Ham, without paying.  
From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 15 Nov 2007 00:31:30
Message: <MPG.21a587775d9a848798a066@news.povray.org>
In article <473abb4b@news.povray.org>, war### [at] tagpovrayorg says...
> Patrick Elliott <sel### [at] rraznet> wrote:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/scalzi/1969151713/in/set-72157603091357751
/
> > http://scalzi.com/whatever/?p=121
> 
>   Regardless of what is the truth, that just seems to be mocking for the
> sake of mocking. "Hahahaa! Look at all those idiots!"
>   Is that any better than the idiots?
> 
You didn't do more than read the article and look at a few pictures 
right? To be clear, the author is a biologist, so he knows how bloody 
silly this shit is. He also never says that **everyone** there is an 
idiot. He even mentions one guy that, at the sign where it blames Adam's 
eating an apple for creating weeds said, "Oh, come on!"

How the heck do you go through a place like that and not, about half way 
through, start laughing your ass off. I means seriously, their 
**entire** exhibit is based on two ideas - 1. Evolution is wrong, and 2. 
Everything on earth was carried on the ark by Naoh by through the flood. 
They can't even get their own nonsense right, in that they have a 
diorama that **very clearly** shows dinos being loaded on the ship that 
are **bigger** than Giraffes, then two rooms later they try to claim 
that only *young* dinosaurs where loaded on the ship, which being young 
where no bigger than a dog. Well, which @$#@$ one is it? Then there is 
the, "Evolution is false, but well, there probably where only a small 
number of animals on the ship, so everything 'evolved' from those 
'kinds' into all the billions of species we see now..." Again, which $@#
$@# one is it?

This a monument to one nuts badly thought out version of one minority 
interpretation of one religions silly story, and an even worse attempt 
to claim that everything from disease, famine, and apparently crab 
grass, is the fault of either Adam's fall, or teaching Evolution, or 
both, backed by the worst science imaginable (if you can even call it 
science), paranoia, and obvious mental illness. And, as the author state 
in the subtext on his photo set, its unimaginable that 90% of the people 
that go through the place will leave having been convinced of anything 
other than that the guy who created the place was totally nuts, and a 
sense of either horror that it was built and people might believe it, or 
a strong case of the giggles (possibly both). The other 10% **have to 
be** so badly deluded and disconnected from reality to begin with, that 
nothing short of a head on collision with a semi is likely to dislodge 
the idea that Ken Ham is some sort of scientific genius.

And now, that last suggestion, that you can't reach the people that will 
believe this place, is **not** pure conjecture. Sure, *some* find 
themselves in direct conflict between the huge disparity between facts 
and the fiction they where taught, but at that point there is only two 
paths. One, path is to suffer a massive crisis and start "honestly" 
looking for the truth, the other path is to spiral into the pit of 
insanity. The later post lots on the Internet. You can tell who they are 
in posts by the fact that you can point them at the largest depositories 
of facts possible, including rebuttals of their **specific** complaints 
and arguments and not only will they not read them, they will continue 
to repeat the same accusations, invalid arguments, silly strawmen, etc., 
over and over until they either get banned or get bored and find someone 
else's website to rant on. Most of them are more than happy to give you 
links to their websites, or send you emails too. They are almost always 
written in comic sans, AND tend to emphasize WORDS, often seemingly AT 
random using ALL caps, also using multiple colors, and a dozen different 
font sizes, just in case you failed to notice those ALL CAPS parts.

I haven't met *anyone* on *any* website, out of hundreds, who actually 
believed this BS and didn't even endlessly repeat the same BS over and 
over, while appearing to be incapable of reading *anything*, including 
the comments replying to them, without either missing the point, 
ignoring it, or just flat out not reading what was said, and who didn't, 
if they emailed people, or owned a website dedicated to their "truth", 
didn't fit the above description. Well, almost none of them anyway, but 
the ones that don't love to praise the ones that *do* fit that 
description.

No, I don't think "most" of the people that are in any of those pictures 
are idiots. Some are probably, at least in one respect, completely 
fracking batshit nuts, just like the guy that built the place, but if 
its more than about 5% of them, we might as well all move to Australia 
and watch the US implode in the vacuum of ignorance, incompetence and 
gullibility that would invariably suggest. And even 5% frankly scares 
me.

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