> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Elliott [mailto:sel### [at] npgcablecom]
> > And, given we're talking "the start of the universe", there is no
> > "before" to talk about, either.
> >
>
> Maybe.. But that's a bit... uncertain. I may depend on what you define
> as "before".

Actually, I think it depends on what you mean by "universe."  Of course, I 
get annoyed by people who refer to the Universe as local reality(1), since 
it seems fairly obvious to me that the Universe encompasses everything(2).

But then, certain misnomers get so ingrained into society that there's no 
hope of rooting them out.

(1)Leading to the idea of the Multiverse, or multiple universes (multiple 
everythings?).

(2)Since the universe is everything, then there is no "before," as 
anything before would merely be part of the same universe.

...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com

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