"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> writes:
>> Yeesh, quit it with the clueless flames.
>
> I think it is you who is clueless here.  Did you ever check out what junk
> Debian distributes a "stable" or "testing" povray packages.  Their "stable
> version is a seven year outdated version of POV-Ray with more broken and
> incompatible patches than POV-Ray has lines of code.  Their "testing"
> version is not a tiny bit better, and there is no serious interest in
> correcting it either.

The quality of packages depends on the package maintainer; for major
packages (gcc, X, etc), debian's maintainers are second to none.  I have
no idea what's up with the povray package, but Debian is a free software
distro, and Povray is _not free software_, so what do you really expect?

Hey, I use Povray, and run Debian (on several machines); I certainly
wish the Povray package would get a bit of love!

> If I would dare to install Debian anywhere, I am sure I would quickly find
> that most of their packages enjoy the same kind of improvements.  And this
> thread regarding gcc problems pretty much emphasizes this point perfectly!

So you've never actually used Debian then?  Do you have any actual
_evidence_ that the gcc problems in this thread have anything to do with
a Debian patch, or of the systemic problems you accuse them of?  Or are
you just randomly spewing wild-ass generalizations because you're pissed
over the state of the Povray package?

Every GNU/linux user that I know runs Debian, for good reason:  It's
more functional, more solid, and _far_ easier to administer than most
other distros, and upholds the ideals of free software better than all.

-Miles
-- 
`The suburb is an obsolete and contradictory form of human settlement'

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