On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 15:31:22 -0400, jr wrote:

>> There's a reason I don't use a valid e-mail address.  I leave that as
>> an exercise for the reader.  People who have a need to know know how to
>> get in touch with me.
> 
> my, my, you really are (in the vernacular) as thick as two short planks.

Wow, you really don't know how to behave in public, do you?  You want to 
continue to be insulting rather than just walk away.

Way to show your true colors.

> given your background, you should have been polite and taken your ..
> fist shaking off-list.  you had the opportunity, multiple times, and
> apparently knew about that rule all along.  (inexcusable)
> 

Consider for a moment how you're reacting to my perhaps rather 
intentional rudeness in your direction.  You don't like it very much, do 
you?

It's different when the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it?

Maybe consider that the next time you decide to rant in public.  You want 
to tell me to take a personal dispute with you "off list", but you are in 
fact the one who took personal issue with the entire project and decided 
to vent in public.  Perhaps a private venue would have been more suitable.

You clearly wanted to start a fight with your original post, and with 
your follow-up with Chris.  I can't help but notice that you have barely 
engaged with his responses, and that says a lot about your motivations.

You brought a shit-ton of negativity in at the outset, and then said 
"what?  me?" and clutched your pearls when called out for it.

Take a look at how Bald Eagle is engaging with Chris.  That's a 
productive discussion.  It's a useful discussion, and it's actually 
*helping*.

What you did?  Not so much.

>> ...
> 
> (and no, no apology for "as thick as", and no apology for implying you
> lack(ed)
> .... veracity; ie you're playing games, and that, at least, is not true
> to the spirit of the thread's topic)

I know that you know, deep down, that you behaved badly - in name-calling 
and in calling me a liar in public about my role in the project.  You 
*know* that what you did was wrong, but because of my response, you have 
raised your defenses and can't bring yourself to admit that in public, 
because you don't want to show weakness (even though admitting one's 
error is certainly not an admission of weakness - sadly, that's something 
not enough people understand these days).

Nevertheless, I accept your apology.  I know you *want* to, but you can't 
because you feel you'll "lose face".  That's OK.  I get it.

As for me, I'll apologize to you for opting to respond "in-kind" to your 
rudeness by way of making a point.  Clearly as smart as you are, that 
approach doesn't work with you.  I made an error in judgment in how best 
to call you out for your rudeness.  In all honesty, your rudeness simply 
pissed me off because it was directed at someone I've known for years and 
think of as a friend, and it was (and is) uncalled for.  For my choice of 
approach, I am sorry.

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

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