On 13-11-2018 11:49, omniverse wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> On 18-2-2018 17:01, William F Pokorny wrote:
>>> Most of my media experience is with emitting media. In an attempt to
>>> better understand scattering media I spent some time looking at our
>>> abyss.pov sample scene.
>>
>> After watching again the movie "Das Boot", I remembered your study and
>> downloaded/rendered your's/Gille's scene. I am getting the shivers all
>> over again...
>>
>> Very well done by the way!
> 
> No doubt. I might have missed seeing this before.
> 
> The abyss.pov is a great scene to play with. I was trying changes to it July
> 2017 according to my render dates. I remember looking for underwater whale
> pictures to see examples from reality. They were mostly bluish in color, from
> lighter to darker... and very clear to my surprise! But I liked the green murky
> water idea too, at first. My last render of it was with the blue color instead.
> All done using P-R 3.7, which was another reason, to update the scene file.
> 
> I was also changing the mines to be of equal scale after realizing Gilles had
> used artistic liberty to size and position those for the look he wanted, so I
> never got around to remaking the nearby mines to be prominent in the picture.
> And I wanted to get a water surface and seabed included, not completely
> successful there.
> 
> Found a sunken ship photo at http://njscuba.net/z-gear/photo_s03190026.jpg
> Maybe a good comparison to the blue abyss renders, except for haze/blur. Unlike
> the whale photos you can find on the 'net that are incredibly clear.
> I can't decide which way I prefer, although after seeing the photographs being
> so blue that does have its merits. Maybe more menacing that way, with the idea
> of the sub *clearing* those mines thus far.
> 
> Anyway... always loved Gilles artwork. Can't beat that.
> 

I fully agree with you. Those whale pictures might be taken in very 
clear ocean waters: Pacific, Arctic/Antarctic. Other seas/oceans are 
more murky, like the North Sea. In Das Boot, the (Atlantic) Ocean is 
shown more like in Gille's scene.

-- 
Thomas

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