On 30-6-2018 19:39, Jörg "Yadgar" Bleimann wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
> 
> On 28.06.2018 08:38, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
>> I can readily imagine that. It is the topic of the day that can break 
>> up friendships and families. Similar to "L'affaire Dreyfus" in 1898:
> 
> ...and, eventually, plunge entire European countries into full-scale 
> civil war! But not so much, as day-dreamed by the far right, immigrants 
> vs. autochthonous citizens, but rather far right and conservatives vs. 
> liberals (in a European, not American sense) and leftists.
> 
> Total collapse of civilization, corpses pile up in the streets (unless 
> eaten by the desperate who resort to cannibalism for survival), where 
> the blood stands waist-deep... cities like Cologne or Berlin would bear 
> more semblance to Kigali at the height of the Ruandan genocide than to 
> anything remotely European... and there would be no escape from this 
> hell as the entire world will be aflame!
> 
> And, yes, even now people close to me started to arm themselves...
> 
> See you in Khyberspace!
> 
> Yadgar

[for ot discussion]

I am not /that/ pessimistic myself. Europe in particular will get a 
political shake-up - maybe well-needed(?) - but what I am more concerned 
about is the hypocrisy of governments and industries to make the 
necessary transitions towards a fairer trade with the so-called third 
world countries. As long as we dump our (e.g. agricultural) surplus 
there and, at the same time, raise unacceptable import barriers for 
them, no solution will be found. Fair (bilateral) deals, fair 
(bilateral) trades, less ngo's.


-- 
Thomas

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