Patrick Elliott wrote:
> That's because a hundred or more years ago they a) fought duels in 
> public, 

I think the number of deaths by duel where both sides agree to shoot at each 
other is nominal, unless you have some evidence that it was common.

> b) didn't have a lot of rules about when it was and wasn't 
> justified to shoot someone, 

Of course they did.

> and c) you didn't have whole organizations 
> dedicated to BS like, "Guns don't kill people, people do!", 

Because nobody was stupid enough to think otherwise. Guns were tools just 
like knives were.

> makes about as much sense as saying, "cars without working brakes don't 
> kill people, the people that drive them do.", oh.. and the crazy idea 
> that guns represent someone *other* than a very clear, specific, and 
> intentional, way to kill things.

Guns are not likened to cars without brakes. How many policemen carry guns? 
How many policemen would drive a car without brakes?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
  "How did he die?"   "He got shot in the hand."
     "That was fatal?"
          "He was holding a live grenade at the time."

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