Patrick Elliott wrote:
> Hmm. You mean like NY, where enforcement and gun laws have increased, 
> and oddly, the violent crime rate has dropped *faster* than any other 
> part of the country? Like that sort of thing?

I think you need to do more controlled studies. Some places, the crime rate 
goes way up.  Some places it goes down.  If you take two similar areas next 
to each other and compare, the place with less gun control has lower crime 
rates, but one might argue that's because there's easy pickin's close by. 
Gun crime is very low in some countries with lots of guns simply because 
there aren't many laws against shooting other people that get enforced or 
because most of the violence is the government against the peasants. Gun 
crime is very low in some countries that traditionally even the police don't 
carry guns, simply because the culture isn't as violent and is much more 
uniform, and the crime rate would be equally low if everyone had guns.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
  "How did he die?"   "He got shot in the hand."
     "That was fatal?"
          "He was holding a live grenade at the time."

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