andrel wrote:
> Nope, I said I understand why these options are needed, but they should 
> not be visible when inappropriate.

They're not. You have to click on the button that says "show me these 
options." At least in Vista.

> With at least in XP not a logical interface to change that. Right 
> clicking the buttin brings up a menu, with one item: properties.
> Of the taskbar, not the button. ??

That's a fair point. Right-clicking on the actual power button should take 
you to the appropriate page of the power control panel thingie.

> That is the one that should not be visible or at least not in this format.

I don't understand why. Where would you put it? Does it confuse you? Do you 
not know what those words mean?

>> Joel is arguing this could be turned into one button. I disagree.
> 
> me to.

I'm not sure how you put six or seven options onto one button.

>> I hate to say it, but cars have both ignition keys, door locks, *and*
>> brake pedals (heck, *two* brake pedals!). I haven't heard anyone
>> complaining about that.
> 
> Why would they? Different physical objects with a clear interface.

And you have different buttons on the screen to do different things with 
your PC, yet Joel is complaining he has too many buttons.

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  "How did he die?"   "He got shot in the hand."
     "That was fatal?"
          "He was holding a live grenade at the time."

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