On 1/20/2011 2:10 PM, Darren New wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> you could, for legit use, photocopy pages out of a book, for a
>> classroom, or to show someone, etc., as long as you don't *sell* the
>> book, or its pages, to someone else.
>
> That's not actually the case, and never has been.
>
Fair use. You mention it yourself soon after.

>> You simply can't *at all* ***EVER***, even if the use would otherwise
>> be considered legitimate.
>
> I don't believe that's true. See, for example, this:
>
> http://futureofmusic.org/article/summary-dmca
>
> "The exception to this rule is when people want to make a copy of a work
> for “fair use.” "
>
All well and good, but, in a practical sense, this is meaningless for 
"digital" content.

> If you have legal access to the work, you're allowed to bypass the DRM
> in order to do anything legal, including "fair use" (which includes
> selling your original).
>
>> secondary laws, dealing with recorded content, and sue you for, "using
>> the content in a performance.", as happened to a few people that made
>> the mistake of playing their music in a restaurant in at least one
>> case I know of.
>
> Yes. That's called "public performance", and it's not one of the legal
> rights you get when you purchase the content.
>
Oddly, reading a book isn't "public performance". Even if you put it 
under a projector it probably wouldn't be. On the other hand.. plug your 
iPad into a big display on a wall... Would it?

>> They could, in principle, even deny you the right to what you already
>> have, if they put in a clause for it, rent it to you (I mean WTF),
>> and, more to the point, stop supporting the device, in effect, denying
>> your right to ***everything*** you bought that is on it.
>
> This isn't true, as I understand it. I'm sure there are loopholes and
> such, and that it's more complex than either of us are giving credit
> for, but the intention isn't to keep you from playing stuff you legally
> own.
>
The biggest "loophole" is, if the software stops working, or the server 
goes down, even if they promised to let you replace a copy, if you lost 
the local one, you lose the thing you bought. So, no, I am quite correct 
in this.

Same with "giving/selling the original". Try that with an eBook...

-- 
void main () {
   If Schrödingers_cat is alive or version > 98 {
     if version = "Vista" {
       call slow_by_half();
       call DRM_everything();
     }
     call functional_code();
   }
   else
     call crash_windows();
}

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