andrel wrote:
> Part of your problem might be that there is no real debate 

Sure. I'm really just trying to get a feel for whether many europeans think 
of it as "us against them" when it comes to the government, or whether they 
think their government is succeeding, or at least failing due to something 
other than malice (like it being a fundamentally difficult task).

> sorry, can't parse that.

Basically, I was saying "it seems the goverment is much more toxic in the 
USA than I remember from when I was younger. Is it really more toxic than 
other civilized western governments, or am I just remembering poorly?"

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Serving Suggestion:
     "Don't serve this any more. It's awful."

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