> It means that the value you are measuring is not determined until you
> measure it. Hence, as far as we will ever be able to know without
> divine(*) intervention, yes, it's random.

OK, but that was my point, it could be controlled by something 
*impossible* for us to find out.  The same way as an artificial brain 
simulation running on one of our computers would find it impossible to 
find out about our universe.

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