Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> Put it this way: if your hate speech targets only people too poor to afford 
> >> lawyers, how likely are you to be forced to stop?
> > 
> >   That's a question of economy, not a question of human rights.

> You're missing the point I'm trying to make. You're talking about abstract 
> rights, in which case yes I agree. I'm talking about the reality of the 
> situation in which there's often a lack of justice due to the way the system 
> works.

> It would be nice if the legal system were set up in such a way that everyone 
> is equally protected. But it's not. Hell, our previous president has 
> confessed in writing to committing war crimes and knowingly violating the 
> constitution, and nobody is even going to look into it, let alone punish him 
> for it.

  So exactly what's wrong in promoting equal rights for everybody, and
abolishing special treatment for some groups of people?

  If the current situation is that some minorities are being discriminated
against, the solution is not to give them *more* protection than to the
rest. Two wrongs don't make a right. You don't fight discrimination with
more discrimination. The correct solution is to give them the *same*
protection as everybody else. That, by definition, removes the discrimination.

> >   I thought even in the US all people are entitled to legal counsel
> > regardless of income. 

> Only for crimes. Which is to say, only when you're accused by the government 
> itself of breaking some law for which the punishment might be jail time.

> If you get sued by some company for copyright infringement (to pull an 
> example out of the air), you have to pay for your own lawyer.

  At least here if you actually win the case, the company that accused you
will have to pay for your lawyer fees. (This makes sense because it avoids
people/companies abusing the legal system to cause economic harm to somebody
by forcing them to pay legal fees.)

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                                                          - Warp

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