On 12/7/2010 9:10 AM, Darren New wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> Snort. Worse, I had to read a lot of the "great whatnots" in school,
>> as I am sure a lot of other people did. As near as I could tell,
>> "great" meant wordy, weak plotted and boring, mixed with a bit of,
>> albeit understandable, confusion, delusion, bigotry, and/or cluelessness.
>
> This is what I was talking about, in part. Some of these novels were the
> first to explore the themes they spoke of in a way that contemporaries
> could understand. But, being the first, they weren't always the best,
> nor were they particularly written to survive the ages.
>
Precisely. To explore an idea fully you have to be able to break period 
conventions, but the period a lot of it comes from.. well, lets say that 
a modern equivalent would be writing a movie script about non-communist, 
in-house, American terrorists, when the top selling movie that week was 
Red Dawn. lol In some ways we have a much broader range of attitudes, so 
pretty much *anything* is bound to piss off some small percentage of 
people, no matter what the content, but the wobbles are a lot faster. 
Took Europe like hundreds of years to go from Roman orgies to allowing 
nudity on beaches, it took us... about 20 years to go from "Sorry, but 
what where you thinking with a stag film that had a women banging a dog 
in it, and yes, the damn Centaurs in the new Disney movie had better 
have something over their breasts!", to well, OK, I guess movies like 
The Short Bus are not "bad", even with the sex in it, and you can show 
some stuff, just not shot up close, or from certain angles, on *some* 
stations, at night. (i.e., a sudden rush to fix what was perceived as 
going *way* too far, to not having to buy the Playboy channel to get 
even soft core on TV.) The oscillations seem to be a bit faster these 
days, so expect like California to decide animal movies are OK, just as 
Kentucky declares that its now "God's State!", complete with its brand 
new Noah's Ark (I would love to know if "Goferwood" is termite proof, or 
where they plan to find it, since they are building it using "biblical 
materials and tools" lol), declares exposed ankles to be a mortal sin.

Bloody confusing country to live in. Half the stuff people do they want 
to arrest you for, and the other half they imagine everyone else wants 
*them* arrested for, being evil, anti-mythology, socialists...

> But they're culture. If I say "Godot is expected shortly" or "We're not
> in Kansas any more" or "sour grapes", you have an entire cultural
> background of associations to draw on.
>
Yeah. Kind of depressing when you look back and realize both how much 
one single religion has "informed" the whole mess, and how much of that 
they stole from a dozen others, then successfully convinced people they 
had come up with it first. Or funny.. Depends on which sort of twit is 
babbling about it at the moment.

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