Warp wrote:
>   Would you agree that the information portrayed by the text exists?

Or, more specifically, we have mass/energy, and we have relationships 
between bits of mass/energy. While those relationships exist, they're not 
"made of" anything beyond what they're relating. We think of relationships 
(like information, "force", etc) but they doesn't exist outside our own 
conceptions of them.  If there were no thinking beings, there would be no 
text, even if the paper with the ink on it was unchanged.

Sound exists as a pattern of air molecules. But it's made out of air 
molecules, just like the molecules are made out of atoms, and the atoms are 
out of protons and electrons and such.  If you beleve that sound is made out 
of something other than air, then you believe that air is made out of 
something other than atoms.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Serving Suggestion:
     "Don't serve this any more. It's awful."

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