On 08/07/2010 09:02 AM, Warp wrote:
> Shay<n@n.n>  wrote:
>> No, "nice" is a factor, because "nice" guys don't communicate. "Nice"
>> guys lie. "Nice" guys act interested when they're bored. "Nice" guys
>> think they can get away with it and can never figure out why their
>> deceitful human encounters go sideways.
>
>    It sounds like that your opinion is that there are only "nice men" and
> "douchebags". The "nice men" are just liars, and the "douchebags" are,
> well, douchebags.
>

My opinion is that "nice men" aren't really that nice at all. Your 
typical "nice guy" is a selfish, manipulative (at least, he tries to be) 
person. I can't stand to be around him. I can't stand when he interrupts 
the conversation of normal, mentally-healthy people with his bullshit. 
His being socially awkward or "unlucky" with women doesn't make him any 
less a troll.

Some of these trolls find a home in the bullshit avalanche of particular 
bar/club scenes[1]. This is the type of person I think of as a 
"douchebag." Whatever girl he can barter sex from in exchange for his 
blowing smoke up her ass is as much a troll as he is and finds the 
attention/reinforcement well worth whatever heartache he may give her. I 
think you'll find most douchebag guys were dorky kids.

  -Shay

[1] I'll ignore the fact that you're a checker at Wallmart and pretend 
your putting on that hat makes you a cowboy if you ignore the fact that 
I'm 25, unemployed, and live with my parents and pretend that my putting 
on this jacket makes me a biker.

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