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From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 25 Jul 2010 14:58:58
Message: <4c4c8972$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/24/2010 1:47 PM, Warp wrote:
> Patrick Elliott<sel### [at] npgcablecom>  wrote:
>>>> Based on what? Observation?
>>>
>>>     Pretty much, yes. Observation in the sense that GR has hold up pretty
>>> well in a very large amount of different experiments (including things
>>> like gravitation lensing and orbital measurements of the Moon).
>>>
>> Same argument could have, at one time, been made about Newtonian
>> physics. The first examples of where that didn't work where people
>> going, "Yeah, but.. what about in this case?"
>
>    Are you claiming you have a better theory than general relativity?
>
>    You make it sound like it was a general consensus among the scientific
> community that singularities cannot exist (because their physical properties
> cannot be described with the GR equations and because they seemingly violate
> many rules of QM).

No I am not. I know that the majority of scientists think singularities 
happen. Heck, even by the arguments being made here, that they are 
non-zero size, just begs the question, "Ok, so.. how big of a non-zero?" 
What I am saying is that people wouldn't be looking at alternatives, if 
everything about it was all so nice and rosy and well understood, as you 
claim, and certainly not one of the most prominent scientists of our 
time. Beyond that, what you have is predictions that can't be tested, 
about what goes on, which only make sense if they are right, which they 
might not be, precisely because they violate other rules. That someone 
can explain, with or without allegory, what they think is going on in a 
black hole doesn't mean its certain that its happening, and you **do** 
have to explain, as part of your theory, why all those other rules stop 
working. Since many of them, especially in QM, are "recent" additions, 
its impractical to say that there "are" explanations for that. But, you 
are correct in one thing, neither of us is experienced enough in the 
field to have a clue if, never mind what, the explanations may be.

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