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  Re: Decker is a replicant?  
From: Darren New
Date: 13 Jun 2010 17:00:52
Message: <4c154704$1@news.povray.org>
JimT wrote:
> As far as the internal logic of a sci-fi film, I would accept that EITHER
> Deckard would be able to realise he was a replicant OR he wouldn't be able to
> realise Rachael was. I don't think Deckard ever realised he was a replicant. I
> don't think that depends on the cut you see.

Nah. It took him an hour with specialized equipment and testing to figure 
out she was a replicant.  If he didn't test himself, there's no reason to 
believe he'd figure it out himself, or rachel would have also.

>> Everybody believed Deckard was a human, including the cops. Why wouldn't the
>> other replicants?
>>
> Don't know. I just thought that the Hauer nexus 6 was so superhuman that he
> would know. Not very internally consistent.

Now, a replicant not being able to recognise another replicant without 
special equipment? That I'd believe, given the way to recognise a replicant 
is to see if they have subtle emotional responses.

> I thought you had just provided reason 3, but for the first time since I saw the
> film, I thought that the replicant hunters might be afraid to go against the
> nexus 6s and set up a replicant to do so.

Hmm. Maybe.

> In the film, I got no sense of how long it took to physically make and mentally
> programme a replicant - hours, days or months. If it was short enough, making a
> Deckard replicant after the news of the news of the nexus 6 mutiny got to Earth
> might be possible.

Yeah, hard to say, there.

> If Rachael could be programmed to be Rachael, Deckard could be programmed to be
> a replicant hunter - maybe one that had got himself killed by replicants.

Maybe that too.

> As for the unicorn at the end, the Olmos character kept making them. I
> interpreted the unicorn as 'proof' that Olmos had been there, knew Rachael was a
> replicant, but was prepared to allow Deckard and Rachael to go off in love into
> the sunset.

Yes, that makes much more sense if you realize decker had been dreaming of 
unicorns and hadn't told anyone else.  There's just no reason to understand 
"origami unicorn" == "you are a replicant" without some further connection.

> Maybe this is reason 3. If Deckard was a replicant created to deal with the
> nexus 6s, why wouldn't the Olmos character kill him and Rachael, given the
> paranoia about replicants?

Clearly he was supposed to, which is what the origami in front of Decker's 
door at the end meant.  "I was here, I could have killed Rachel (and you), 
but I didn't, so run away."

> If Deckard was human, maybe the Olmos character would have the compassion to
> allow Rachael to live, since a human was looking after her.

That's what I thought it meant. "I came here to kill Rachel, but you can run 
away with her and live out the next couple of years, because she's going to 
die anyway."

> What I am still confused about is why so much fuss about the nexus 6s coming to
> Earth when everyone must have known when their sell by date was? I mean, the
> only reason for them to come to Earth was to try to get their date reset.

Except they're pretty brutal. And, of course, it's illegal, and could be all 
kinds of bad PR.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Eiffel - The language that lets you specify exactly
    that the code does what you think it does, even if
    it doesn't do what you wanted.


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