On 5/13/2010 8:37 PM, Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> But, in the USA, it can't be treason. They are not waging war, and they
> are not giving aid and comfort to the declared enemies. Unless you count
> the news media (in general) as making us more afraid, while fear is the
> weapon of terrorists . . . well, hard to prove legally. Sedition, maybe,
> but not treason. But if you want to invoke the Smith Act, go for it. It
> is still on the books, and both sides have overstepped the bounds it
> laid out. But by strict definition of even seditious conspiracy (§2384
> of Title 18 USC) they haven't done anything wrong yet.
>
> Free speech still means they can make up stories just this side of
> slander and libel, if they do not incite a riot.
Yeah. Some of them are getting damn close though. Like the bozo recently 
commenting that it should be hunting season on Liberals, adding to a 
long list of other nuts, all obsessed with the idea that they need 
something like a populist SS, or other "special" group to route out 
people that think different. Only, if you claim I said it, I will say I 
didn't, and I will claim no one else on my show did either, or that 
anyone else in my party ever did, even if you have it ***on tape***.

Its getting damn tiring, first off. But, second off.. At this point 
there is almost nothing the left can accuse the right of, which could be 
legitimately called rhetoric, or even slander. Most of them just report 
what the right actually said, draw fairly reasonable conclusions from 
the pattern of behavior and statements being made, then sit back and 
wait for the person in question to a) back peddle as fast as possible, 
and b)deny actually specifically meaning any of it, that specific way. 
Most, it may be pointed out, even in the "talk show" sorts, are willing 
to admit they made a mistake, correct their statements, and honestly 
admit they got a fact wrong. About 10% of the time its quite comical, 
because it turns out the "correct" information makes the person 
complaining look even worse than the wrong information. They also have 
said, more than once, "Hell yes I am biased. Now lets hear you admit the 
same."

But, in any case, the other side not only lies about lying, about the 
lie that someone lied on their own show, when its possible to find the 
film clip of the original on Youtube in like 5 seconds flat, never mind 
at places like Media Watch, but all the other wackos then go one to 
repeat the original lie, or the lie about the lie, never acknowledging 
that anyone has figured out that *any* of it was *ever* wrong.

Claiming you are dealing with the same behavior by both sides at this 
point is nothing short of claiming that a magician like Criss Angel is 
the **same** as the Tarot card reader you dragged in from down the 
street, who claims that not only is *everything* they do real, but that 
everyone that claims to have heard them say it was fake a day ago, while 
being shown the video of doing so, where all lying, and its Criss that 
is the real con artist. After all, ***HE*** admits faking it.

Its like living in the damn twilight zone some days, when watching the 
ridiculous BS that has been going on, well.. at least since Bush 
deciding to go after Iraq and some of us got the odd suspicion that 
Bagdad Bob, or possibly his close cousin, was working for both the US to 
make up the things the administration was claiming, but couldn't 
actually manage to prove at all.

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