On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:55:10 -0400, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 May 2010 03:05:24 -0400, Warp wrote:
> 
>> >   So all other types of criminal profiling are ok, but not profiling
>> >   based
>> > on how someone looks like?
>> > 
>> >   I really think this is political correctness getting in the way of
>> > criminal investigation.
> 
>> No, but being brown isn't a crime.  What about that do you not
>> understand?
> 
>   I didn't say being brown is a crime, nor did I anywhere even imply
>   that.
> 
>   I don't understand your response.

You've said that there's nothing wrong with law enforcement asking random 
people for their ID.  There is in the US - in order to do so, they have 
to have probable cause of the individual having committed a specific 
crime.  The police in the US aren't permitted to stop random people and 
ask to see their ID just because they feel like it.

So in order to be stopped, the individual has to have committed a crime.  
The Arizona law makes "being brown in public or private places in 
Arizona" a crime.

That's unconstitutional.

You are saying there's nothing wrong with the police asking people for 
ID.  There is in the US under US law.  So by supporting the position that 
the police can stop people "just because they match the assumed profile 
of illegal immigrants", and the only criteria for such a stop is their 
ethnicity, you are therefore saying that being brown is a crime (whether 
you say so explicitly or not), because *otherwise* what are they being 
stopped for?

Jim

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