Darren New wrote:
> John VanSickle wrote:

>> Many things claimed by the non-religious worldview (such as the age of 
>> the earth) demand that things like the speed of light and the decay 
>> rate of radioactive isotopes have always had the values we measure 
>> them to have today.  
> 
> No they don't. They're measured in different ways and they agree.

Although if the values for these constants are in fact the result of 
more fundamental properties of space and matter, then any shift in one 
could only happen with a corresponding shift in the others (for 
instance, the electric constant, the magnetic constant, and the speed of 
light, are all interrelated), and our benchmark is moving.

>> They also demand that no major changes have been forced upon the world 
>> of our experience by some agency, existing outside of that world, at 
>> times where we have been unable to make observations.
> 
> True. I think there's a general assumption that there isn't a conspiracy 
> to fool scientific measurements. (What amuses me is when the faithful 
> will assert that it's their caring and loving god doing to lying.)

It's a fair assumption to state that if miracles were happening in the 
world, science would be rather hobbled in its progress.  If a Supreme 
Being wanted science to progress at the fastest possible rate, He would 
refrain from causing miracles.

Which means that the lack of miracles proves nothing...

Regards,
John

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