On 3/26/2010 7:23 PM, Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 03/25/10 01:08, scott wrote:
>>>> accept that fact and try another medicine.  For someone to be using
>>>> something on a child in the first place that has never been proven
>>>> better than placebo, and then to refuse to try something else when it's
>>>> not working, *that* is criminal.
>>>
>>> See my question to Stephen: How do you propose enforcing it?
>>
>> Same way as any other child neglect crimes.  It either gets reported
>> through family/friends/school to the authorities who investigate, or in
>> the worst case the death of the child triggers the investigation.  Then
>> you search for evidence they didn't search for appropriate medical care
>> (very easy if they admit to it!), then it's up to a judge/jury to decide
>> a punishment.
>
> 	I think you're missing my point. So what should the concerned
> neighbors/friends report? That some parent is using a treatment that is
> not certified by the FDA (in the US)? If so, you've suddenly
> criminalized all herbal treatments, and any other treatment that may be
> common elsewhere.
>
> 	The point being that it's hard to criminalize _just_ homeopathic
> medicine. If you want to criminalize everything that is not approved by
> some government body, I'd be dead set against it. There are too many
> things that would get banned.
> 	
Problem here is, the only reason these things are "not" covered by the 
FDA is because a) herbal remedies where wrongfully excluded, at the 
behest of people in the legislature, who argued, "if its natural, how 
harmful can it be", and, at the time, no one had a damn clue how 
blindingly stupid that was, and b) most of these things haven't killed 
enough people, in a legally provable way, to get them "reincluded". Some 
rare cases have been, and they are now covered by the FDA, and classes 
as actual drugs. The catch here is, even if they could be determined to 
be dangerous enough to be covered, they don't do anything themselves, so 
can't fall under "drugs". Its not the FDA that would be going after most 
of these, it would be other agencies, on the ***same*** basis that you 
don't sell someone products that do not *do* what you claim they do, 
contain what you promised, or otherwise provide what you said you where 
selling. Its "fraud", not "bad medicine". And, its fraud, whether you 
think some bozo digging up an old book in the library and trying it 
themselves does it or not. No one is going to arrest *them* for being 
stupid enough to try it. They damn well should arrest someone for making 
money off of **selling** it to someone, and lying about what it does in 
the process.

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