>> Even the free version of VS has a GUI for setting up and accessing local 
>> and remote databases from your code
>
> Even the Java version from 10 years ago?

Dunno, I'm using the ones you can download from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/express/Windows/

> Well, it was an old version of Max. But, as far as I could tell, it only 
> renders triangles. (There's probably a way to move the points around; I 
> didn't look too hard for it.) The texturing options seemed pretty 
> extensive though...
>
> As for VS, it was a struggle to figure out how to make it compile Hello 
> World and run it. You would have expected this to be the most trivial 
> thing, but no... Given the difficulty of doing this, I didn't exactly hunt 
> around for the button that embeds SkyNet into your program.

In VS C# I can just go to "File -> New Project -> Console Application", up 
pops a "Program.cs" source code file with about 10 lines of code, a class 
containing an empty "Main" method.  I write "Console.WriteLine("Hello 
World!");" and press F5.  Job done.

Note that as I typed Con the autocomplete list popped up and Console was 
highlighted so I just pressed enter, then when I pressed "." the next list 
popped up of methods/properties of "Console", after I typed "W" it 
highlighted "Write", but then I saw that "WriteLine" was below so I pressed 
down arrow and enter again, then I typed "(" and I was given a list of 
overloaded methods I could call, I just ignored that and entered my string, 
assuming there would be one that took a string.  Also if I made any mistake 
(or paused for too long typing before completeing the statement) it got 
underlined in red...

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