andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >   At least the racism part I view as completely ludicrous. 

> Ok fair enough. Seems like you find things that happen ludicrous. Not my 
> problem.

  That would be a "cum hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy, or in more mundane
terms, "correlation implies causation" fallacy.

  The United States is a capitalist country. There is racism in the United
States. Hence capitalism causes racism.

  Sorry, you fail.

  Could you please point out a country where capitalism *demonstrably* has
caused racism (because, in your own words, these things "happen"), rather
than just both phenomena appearing in the same country without there
necessarily being a direct correlation between the two?

  (And please don't tell me that you understood what I wrote as meaning
"racism doesn't happen, that's ludicrous.")

> > Capitalism does
> > not lead to racism any more than any other possible form of economy.  People
> > will or will not be racists regardless of what the economic model of the
> > country might happen to be. It's not like capitalism would somehow induce
> > racism (while other economic models don't).

> totally irrelevant, because gregjohn did not make that claim.

  Of course he did. He talked about how capitalism and free commerce could
lead to things like racist behavior. That was the whole point.

  If he didn't make that claim, then what did he claim, in your opinion?

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