Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Warp wrote:

> >   Maybe you are simply refusing to understand the movies because of some odd
> > principle? ("I have bashed this movie, I'm not going to back down now.")

> Or how about "I didn't enjoy watching it"?

> I mean, it's not like I *have* to like it. It's a free country, right?

  You are doing a good job at making it sound like you have decided that
since you didn't like it the first time, you will never give it a second
chance and try to understand it better so that, maybe, you could perhaps
start liking it in retrospect. In other words, "I hate it, and I will
always hate it no matter what you say; I refuse to like it".

  If you decide that you will never like it, that's fine. It's your
prerogative. However, you shouldn't bash the film if you don't understand
it. Just because something doesn't make sense to you (maybe because you
outright refuse to understand it) doesn't mean that nobody else understands
it either or finds it enjoyable.

> I'm told there are people who actually *liked* the X-Files, for example. 
> I cannot begin to imagine why, but apparently some people really liked 
> it. Good for them...

  Do you really think they would have got money for 9 whole seasons if
people didn't like it?

> >> So it's possible to construct an explanation which appears to make sense 
> >> in the context of the film. That's not the same as the film making sense.
> > 
> >   What I wrote was not a constructed explanation. It's almost exactly what
> > the Architect is saying in the second movie. Just watch that scene again
> > and listen to what he is saying, keeping in mind what I wrote.

> For me, what you wrote is more like those people who try to "analyse" 
> the lyrics of the Beatles. Like, they sing "it's raining outside" and 
> some beardy professor goes "ah, yes, that's actually a reference to the 
> Nazis". Um, WTF?

  That's because you haven't watched that scene again, listening what the
Architect character is saying. It's quite straightforward. You are talking
as if my explanation was far-fetched interpretation of a vague philosophical
monologue, but it isn't: It's quite straightforward and clear once you start
listening to it.

  (It also helps understanding it when you know the rest of the movies.
For example Smith's monologue when he speaks to Morpheus in the first
movie helps, as well as many things the Merovingian says.)

> Now, what you wrote isn't quite that crazy. The Architect clearly does 
> talk about choice and about how the Matrix has been redesigned a few 
> times. But he says everything extremely cryptically (for no obvious 
> reason).

  I don't find it cryptic at all. It's quite simple and straightforward.

> Besides, it's not like it's my *duty* to understand it or like it. It's 
> entertainment. If I don't find it entertaining, why would I watch it 
> again? That doesn't seem smart.

  It can be rewarding if you come up with a realization, and you start
understanding the idea. You start appreciating the subtleties of the movie
more. What could be more rewarding?

  I enjoy movies which need some thinking.

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                                                          - Warp

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