Stefan Viljoen wrote:
> The streets and sidewalks are owned by the city, 

Here, some are, some aren't. When the builder builds houses, the city comes 
and says "you must pay to put in roads, then give them to us." Sometimes 
they don't. I don't know the pattern. The roads inside our gate belong to 
us, but the horse trail / walking path is public property that happens to be 
inside our gates. In practice, since the whole neighborhood isn't fenced in, 
you couldn't really keep anyone out who wanted to come in anyway. It's just 
a bit blatant to be climbing over the neighbor's fence carrying a golf bag.

> This is what happened to most public parks here. 

Here it wasn't dangerous. It just got crowded and abused. Trash (especially 
bottles) left behind, the grass being sufficiently beaten up it had to be 
replaced, etc. I haven't heard of anything more "dangerous" than someone 
breaking some light bulbs and such.

> Yup, I agree totally. The trick is balance. Like the case Clipka made about
> the whole "armed safe society" thread. I do agree too that freedoms (like
> weapons) need to be limited, but I disagree as to the level of limitation.

Well, we already had a low-government everyone-armed society here, and it 
was the highest level of murder in our history, AIUI. On the other hand, if 
you're worried about overthrowing the government, having guns locked up and 
unloaded in your house should take care of your revolutionary needs. It's 
not like the government is going to get overthrown in the length of time it 
takes to push a dozen shells into a shotgun. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".

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