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  Re: An armed society is a safe society  
From: Darren New
Date: 6 Nov 2009 12:46:12
Message: <4af460e4$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> If /everyone/ is carrying a gun around,

Did you read where it happened? How many people in a hospital in the USA do 
you think are carrying weapons with them?  How many doctors are ready to use 
lethal force even to defend themselves? How many psychiatric patients do you 
leave with firearms? How many people getting a cast put on are holding their 
rifle?

This wasn't on patrol, or someone breaking in in a foreign country. Chances 
are nobody had firearms in the immediate vicinity other than the military 
police, who shot him.

> then the first reaction to 
> someone drawing one is probably "gee, what's happening here? Is there 
> any danger? Damn, this is serious - he's having a real firefight with 
> those guys over there! Man, if only I knew who's the good guys here!", 
> rather than "*OH SHIT, HE'S GOT A GUN! HE'S GONNA KILL US ALL! DUCK AND 
> COVER! RUN! GET THE FREAKIN' HELL OUTTA HERE!!*"

Uh, on a military base? I think not.

You think if a cop pulls you over for a traffic stop and you pick up a 
firearm, he's not going to draw on you, but rather run away? No.

Not to try to claim that fiction reflects reality, but did you ever see 
Lethal Weapon?  The undercover cop all scruffy and dirty comes in to meet 
his partner. While waiting, he takes out his weapon to check it over. 
Someone yells "GUN!" and tackles him and handcuffs him, to much 
embarrassment when they find out he's a cop.

> Which is probably just why that guy had time to kill 13 people before 
> anyone came to wits, identified him as an aggressor, and managed to take 
> him out.

No, I'm pretty sure they teach soldiers how to shoot someone who is killing 
people in the same color uniform. If he wasn't shot immediately, I'm pretty 
sure it wasn't because it was "OH SHIT, HE HAS A GUN!"

I mean, what army could possibly be the least effective if its tactics is to 
shit themselves when someone shoots at them?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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