andrel wrote:
> On 26-10-2009 20:17, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> andrel wrote:
>>>> Meaningless. Its enough that far too many of them will turn right 
>>>> around and insist that every damn thing they **did** use to make 
>>>> their decision was meaningless, unimportant, and unnecessary, 
>>>> because "god" led them to the choice. This is the thing that pisses 
>>>> **everyone** that is an intellectual, from Christians who manage to 
>>>> mostly compartmentalize things enough to still think about it, to 
>>>> humanists, to atheists, the outright refusal, and apparent 
>>>> inability, of too many "believers" to believe in, respect, or 
>>>> recognize, their own thinking and how they reached a conclusion, and 
>>>> all too often, actually not just claim they reached the result 
>>>> "without" something, but the turn right around and declare, "And 
>>>> since I never need, or use X, no one should need X", right after 
>>>> frakking using X to reach their original conclusions. You honestly 
>>>> think that what we get annoyed at is mere "statement" that they 
>>>> believe in something? Man do you have a distorted view of the issue...
>>>
>>> Uhm, can you run that by me again. Preferable slightly more coherent.
>>>
>> Ok.. Example - Some believer says, "I went to the doctor, who checked 
>> me out, and told me I have X problem. However, since I don't believe 
>> in modern medicine, I am going to reject what the doctor recommended I 
>> take for it, and pray instead." You can find myriad such examples, 
>> where someone applies logic, or even science, to figuring something 
>> out, then turns right around, when attempting to apply the result, and 
>> rejecting the very thing they just used to get there. ID is another 
>> good example. Rejections of ***every single conclusion*** reached by 
>> performing the science, yet a demand and insistence that they need 
>> science to prove their own interpretations right, which the laughable 
>> result that nothing they present ever resembles either real science, 
>> valid conclusions, or even and understanding of how science works at all.
> 
> yes?....and?...
> 
> sorry, what was the context and what is your point?
> 
> 
Hmm. Would it help you to know that an entire political party in the US, 
and one news station seems to now function in this kind of fantasy land 
of ignorance and blind stupidity? Oh, and that in the state that buys 
the *largest* number of text books in the country, and thus tends to 
drive what everyone else has to select from, has been systematically 
replacing everything they can with precisely these sorts of people since 
well before George Bush represented them, never mind before they got him 
elected to be commander in chimp. We are, at the moment, watching the 
rather disturbing trend that, on one hand, they might actually "keep" 
their power base, and make things even worse, while at the same time 
watching a civil war break out in their own party, over whether or not 
certain members are crazy, stupid, ignorant, or religious, enough to 
deserve to *be* members of the party. Its like watching a train wreck, 
form the uneasy position of someone tied to the train track.

Understandably, in such a context, what seems like "minor" wackiness, 
which only effects a few morons that believe it, to you, is a tad more 
serious to *everyone* viewing it from the same room, as it where.

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